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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Is there anyway of preserving the list of
registered users so if there were a node failure, the sysop could re-register
all of the users without having to enter each one again. </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In addition, this question has yet to be fielded.
Do node partners have to be “registered” or is registration limited
to users?</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thank you</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
dxspider-support-bounces@dxcluster.org
[mailto:dxspider-support-bounces@dxcluster.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ian Maude<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 25, 2009
8:04 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>The DXSpider
Support list</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Dxspider-support]
Cluster Abuse and IP Addresses</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I have all the
registration emails and use that. It would be handy to be able to save
out the list from the cluster though :)</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I think the node partners
are automagically registered although I might be wrong!</span></font></p>
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Ian</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>2009/11/25 Anthony(N2KI)
<<a href="mailto:n2ki@amsat.org">n2ki@amsat.org</a>></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ian,</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>How do
you maintain the list of registered users? Do you keep a separate notepad
file with all the registrants in case there is a node failure; in which case
you would have to re-register each one? This is one my concerns with
starting up registration again on my node. Also I presume that the node
partners have to be registered as well?</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Anthony</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:dxspider-support-bounces@dxcluster.org" target="_blank">dxspider-support-bounces@dxcluster.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:dxspider-support-bounces@dxcluster.org" target="_blank">dxspider-support-bounces@dxcluster.org</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ian Maude<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 25, 2009
3:11 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:ve7cc@shaw.ca"
target="_blank">ve7cc@shaw.ca</a>; The DXSpider Support list<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Dxspider-support]
Cluster Abuse and IP Addresses</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>2009/11/24 Lee Sawkins
<<a href="mailto:ve7cc@shaw.ca" target="_blank">ve7cc@shaw.ca</a>></span></font></p>
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How does registration work with DX Spider nodes? Can I just log into a<br>
cluster with any call I want and request registration and it will be<br>
given, or is there some checking to verify that I really am who I say I<br>
am?</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I have been running
registration for some time now Lee and it is simply a deterrent. There is
no way to prove that someone is who they say they are but I have had no issues.
I can also stop any abuse that is seen by simply removing the
registration from that user until I can work out what is happening.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>If a user wants more
security they can have a password but that of course works only on the node
they normally connect to.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I have over 2000
registered users on the two nodes I run and I have had no problems so far.</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>As a sysop, I feel it is
my duty to check the cluster and try to be aware of any issues that crop up.
I also have the time to do it these days :) Unfortunately, some
feel they can simply install the software and let it run itself, sometimes to
the detriment of the network.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I strongly suggest that
sysops require registration for their nodes. I can check the IP addresses
of locally connected users easily and I can RCMD that information from another
cluster with Spider. I cannot look at the IP address of anyone else
though of course. However, I do not totally see the need to in a network
with the simple addition of registration.</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>73 Ian</span></font></p>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>-- <br>
Ian J Maude, G0VGS<br>
SysOp GB7MBC & HB9DRV-9 DX Clusters<br>
Member RSGB, GQRP 9838, FISTS 14077 | K3 #455<br>
<a href="http://www.amateurradiotraining.org" target="_blank">http://www.amateurradiotraining.org</a>
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