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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I sometimes think I am talking to a
tree.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>You are one of the sysops I mentioned a few
messages back.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>If it doesn't come from your node you could care
less about it. Bogus etc who cares.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>This spot didn't show up on my node. My users
are happy. Your users get the crap.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Lee</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=ian@gb7mbc.net href="mailto:ian@gb7mbc.net">Ian Maude</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=dxspider-support@dxcluster.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 16, 2010 3:49
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Dxspider-support] ROS
Mode</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>As I said, it does not come from my node.<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On 16 June 2010 23:36, Lee Sawkins <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:ve7cc@shaw.ca">ve7cc@shaw.ca</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>You talk a good talk, but the results speak for
themselves.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I mentioned BX5AA putting out bogus spots a
while back. When I connect to your cluster I see the
following spot</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2
face=Arial><BR>CC11^14257.0^BX5AA^13-Jun-2010^1136Z^^N0JH^9^226^K1TTT-14^44^24^7^4^^CO^Taiwan-BV^CO-Colorado-K^PL04^</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>This spot is bogus. It came from
Taiwan. From the same IP that BX5AA uses to put out
spots.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>You say its simple to fix. Fix it
please.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Lee</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: rgb(228,228,228)"><B>From:</B>
<A title=ian@gb7mbc.net href="mailto:ian@gb7mbc.net" target=_blank>Ian
Maude</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=dxspider-support@dxcluster.org
href="mailto:dxspider-support@dxcluster.org" target=_blank>The DXSpider
Support list</A> </DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 16, 2010 2:55
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Dxspider-support] ROS
Mode</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=im>On 16 June 2010 21:55, Lee Sawkins <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:ve7cc@shaw.ca" target=_blank>ve7cc@shaw.ca</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV class=im><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT><BR>So what are the
callsigns involved? Tell us and we can deal with it very
easily. It takes seconds to do. Trying to regulate the
cluster with a stick is not the way forward. What we need is
education. I try to help my users and explain to them why correct
procedure is important. If I were to spot any wrongdoings from
either of my clusters I would take a very dim view indeed of it and
would have words with the person involved. I take my
responsibilities as a sysop very seriously.<BR><FONT size=2
face=Arial> </FONT><BR><BR></DIV>73 Ian<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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class=gmail_quote><BR>Lee
<DIV><BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Chalmas" <<A
href="mailto:rcbza10@hb9bza.net"
target=_blank>rcbza10@hb9bza.net</A>><BR></DIV>To: "The DXSpider
Support list" <<A href="mailto:dxspider-support@dxcluster.org"
target=_blank>dxspider-support@dxcluster.org</A>><BR>Sent: Wednesday,
June 16, 2010 12:54 PM
<DIV><BR>Subject: Re: [Dxspider-support] ROS Mode<BR><BR><BR></DIV>
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class=gmail_quote>as list of abuser's IP addresses and drop their
spots no matter where<BR>they came from.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Well,
what do you do with dynamic IP addresses?<BR><BR>On my side, my IP
address on the WAN side is forced to a new value after a maximum of 20
hours and this is the same with all ADSL (and cable? not 100% sure)
users in my country (and many others I believe, with just a different
time interval), except a few ones who agree to pay an extra fee for a
fixed IP address.<BR><BR>Even worse, if I would misbehave right now
and you would put me on your IP addresses blacklist, my current
address could be reattributed tomorrow to an honest user who would be
blocked without having done anything wrong. And I would be able to
continue "cluster spamming" with my new
address!<BR><BR>73's<BR><BR>Robert - HB9BZA<BR><BR>-- <BR>Robert
CHALMAS, PO Box 1225, CH-1227 Carouge/GE, SWITZERLAND<BR>Free
DX-Cluster client RXCLUS: <A href="http://www.hb9bza.net/rxclus"
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