I did not say it was easy to fix. What I said was, if you know the callsigns of the bogus spotters, tell us. That is easy to deal with. Simply shouting about it is not good enough. Us ethe sysops list to inform of bad spotters and we can all work together. Simply fixating on IP addresses is not good enough. You may have a few IP addresses that are bogus but not all are.<br>
<br>73 Ian<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 16 June 2010 23:36, Lee Sawkins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ve7cc@shaw.ca">ve7cc@shaw.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">You talk a good talk, but the results speak for
themselves.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I mentioned BX5AA putting out bogus spots a while
back. When I connect to your cluster I see the
following spot</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><br>CC11^14257.0^BX5AA^13-Jun-2010^1136Z^^N0JH^9^226^K1TTT-14^44^24^7^4^^CO^Taiwan-BV^CO-Colorado-K^PL04^</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">This spot is bogus. It came from
Taiwan. From the same IP that BX5AA uses to put out
spots.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">You say its simple to fix. Fix it
please.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Lee</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
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<div style="font: 10pt arial; background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(228, 228, 228);"><b>From:</b>
<a title="ian@gb7mbc.net" href="mailto:ian@gb7mbc.net" target="_blank">Ian Maude</a> </div>
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<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Dxspider-support] ROS
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<div><br></div></div><div class="im">On 16 June 2010 21:55, Lee Sawkins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ve7cc@shaw.ca" target="_blank">ve7cc@shaw.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div><div class="gmail_quote">
<blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote"><div class="im"><font face="Arial" size="2"> </font><br>So what are the
callsigns involved? Tell us and we can deal with it very easily.
It takes seconds to do. Trying to regulate the cluster with a stick is
not the way forward. What we need is education. I try to help my
users and explain to them why correct procedure is important. If I
were to spot any wrongdoings from either of my clusters I would take a very
dim view indeed of it and would have words with the person involved. I
take my responsibilities as a sysop very seriously.<br><font face="Arial" size="2"> </font><br><br></div>73 Ian<br><br></blockquote><div class="im">
<blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote"><br>Lee
<div><br><br>----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Chalmas"
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<blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">>It would be much easier to make<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">as list of abuser's IP addresses and drop their spots
no matter where<br>they came from.<br></blockquote><br>Well, what do you
do with dynamic IP addresses?<br><br>On my side, my IP address on the WAN
side is forced to a new value after a maximum of 20 hours and this is the
same with all ADSL (and cable? not 100% sure) users in my country (and
many others I believe, with just a different time interval), except a few
ones who agree to pay an extra fee for a fixed IP address.<br><br>Even
worse, if I would misbehave right now and you would put me on your IP
addresses blacklist, my current address could be reattributed tomorrow to
an honest user who would be blocked without having done anything wrong.
And I would be able to continue "cluster spamming" with my new
address!<br><br>73's<br><br>Robert - HB9BZA<br><br>-- <br>Robert CHALMAS,
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