I never said that Lee and personal insults do not wash with me. You have not read my previous post at all. You shout and scream but apart from blaming other sysops you have had nothing positive to say at all. You claim to be trying to help the network but you are being diversive and personally insulting. I don't see what that achieves. I actually do care very much about the network and try to protect it as much as I can. I can also debate without resorting to personal jibes :)<br>
<br>73 Ian (an Oak btw)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 16 June 2010 23:54, Lee Sawkins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ve7cc@shaw.ca">ve7cc@shaw.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I sometimes think I am talking to a
tree.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">You are one of the sysops I mentioned a few
messages back.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">If it doesn't come from your node you could care
less about it. Bogus etc who cares.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">This spot didn't show up on my node. My users
are happy. Your users get the crap.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div><font color="#888888">
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Lee</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
</font><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"><div class="im">
<div style="font: 10pt arial;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial; background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(228, 228, 228);"><b>From:</b>
<a title="ian@gb7mbc.net" href="mailto:ian@gb7mbc.net" target="_blank">Ian Maude</a> </div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a title="dxspider-support@dxcluster.org" href="mailto:dxspider-support@dxcluster.org" target="_blank">The DXSpider Support list</a>
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</div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 16, 2010 3:49
PM</div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Dxspider-support] ROS
Mode</div>
<div><br></div>As I said, it does not come from my node.<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 16 June 2010 23:36, Lee Sawkins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ve7cc@shaw.ca" target="_blank">ve7cc@shaw.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">You talk a good talk, but the results speak for
themselves.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I mentioned BX5AA putting out bogus spots a
while back. When I connect to your cluster I see the
following spot</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><br>CC11^14257.0^BX5AA^13-Jun-2010^1136Z^^N0JH^9^226^K1TTT-14^44^24^7^4^^CO^Taiwan-BV^CO-Colorado-K^PL04^</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">This spot is bogus. It came from
Taiwan. From the same IP that BX5AA uses to put out
spots.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">You say its simple to fix. Fix it
please.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Lee</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
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<div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial; background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% rgb(228, 228, 228);"><b>From:</b>
<a title="ian@gb7mbc.net" href="mailto:ian@gb7mbc.net" target="_blank">Ian
Maude</a> </div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a title="dxspider-support@dxcluster.org" href="mailto:dxspider-support@dxcluster.org" target="_blank">The DXSpider
Support list</a> </div></div>
<div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 16, 2010 2:55
PM</div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Dxspider-support] ROS
Mode</div>
<div><br></div></div>
<div>On 16 June 2010 21:55, Lee Sawkins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ve7cc@shaw.ca" target="_blank">ve7cc@shaw.ca</a>></span>
wrote:<br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font><br>So what are the
callsigns involved? Tell us and we can deal with it very
easily. It takes seconds to do. Trying to regulate the
cluster with a stick is not the way forward. What we need is
education. I try to help my users and explain to them why correct
procedure is important. If I were to spot any wrongdoings from
either of my clusters I would take a very dim view indeed of it and
would have words with the person involved. I take my
responsibilities as a sysop very seriously.<br><font face="Arial" size="2"> </font><br><br></div>73 Ian<br><br></blockquote>
<div>
<blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote"><br>Lee
<div><br><br>----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Chalmas" <<a href="mailto:rcbza10@hb9bza.net" target="_blank">rcbza10@hb9bza.net</a>><br></div>To: "The DXSpider
Support list" <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@dxcluster.org" target="_blank">dxspider-support@dxcluster.org</a>><br>Sent: Wednesday,
June 16, 2010 12:54 PM
<div><br>Subject: Re: [Dxspider-support] ROS Mode<br><br><br></div>
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<div></div>
<div>
<blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">>It would be much easier to make<br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">as list of abuser's IP addresses and drop their
spots no matter where<br>they came from.<br></blockquote><br>Well,
what do you do with dynamic IP addresses?<br><br>On my side, my IP
address on the WAN side is forced to a new value after a maximum of 20
hours and this is the same with all ADSL (and cable? not 100% sure)
users in my country (and many others I believe, with just a different
time interval), except a few ones who agree to pay an extra fee for a
fixed IP address.<br><br>Even worse, if I would misbehave right now
and you would put me on your IP addresses blacklist, my current
address could be reattributed tomorrow to an honest user who would be
blocked without having done anything wrong. And I would be able to
continue "cluster spamming" with my new
address!<br><br>73's<br><br>Robert - HB9BZA<br><br>-- <br>Robert
CHALMAS, PO Box 1225, CH-1227 Carouge/GE, SWITZERLAND<br>Free
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