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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Actually, I like seeing the quality and quantity of spots from what W3LPL has been doing, but obviously others do not. If you do not want to see it, you can always filter it out. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>NG9R<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> dxspider-support-bounces@dxcluster.org [mailto:dxspider-support-bounces@dxcluster.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Hawes<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 20, 2011 5:17 PM<br><b>To:</b> The DXSpider Support list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Dxspider-support] Skimmers<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Wayne asked:</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> With the RBN do we really need this on the regular cluster network?</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I have been watching with interest the W3LPL spots. It became apparent quickly what Frank was up to, even before reading this email from him, since his posts were 24-7, including non-contest periods. If his claim on "100% valid" is true, and if he turns down the volume as he intends, what's the harm?</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The RBN has to date been largely un-validated in my experience. During a contest weekend, the percentage of broken/busted spots was problematic, enough so that the RBN team has developed some spot validation routines of their own. I tested the most recent incarnation of the RBN this weekend in the Russian DX Contest, and in the 12 hours that I was active and chasing spots from the RBN, I found not a single broken call.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Most users have access to the conventional cluster and the RBN, but most loggers (contest and everyday) can't aggregate the two sources in a single application. (I say "most," but my experience is primarily with N1MM. WinTest can do it, but it's a tedious setup.) As Brendan noted, K1TTT's WinTelnetX does a fine job of this, but it is not very user friendly, and folks are put off by it. I wrote a short "How To" for my local club describing the set up for RBN + Cluster, hoping to help things along.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I personally have no objection to W3LPL's high quality, relatively low volume automatic injection of CW spots into the network.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Just my opinion.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>73 - Dave N3RD</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>On 20 Mar 2011 at 14:03, Wayne wrote:</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> This from W3LPL to one of the locals...</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> **********************</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> Thanks for your email.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> W3LPL-2 is an experimental DX spot validator tool. It takes DX spots </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> from CW skimmers on the east coast and performs a rigorous validation of </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> every spot. If the tool determines that the spot is 100% valid, it is </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> then posted on the DX clusters. So far the experiment has been a big </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> success, as far as I'm aware no one has detected an spots that are </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> incorrect.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> There have been a few complaints about excessive spotting volume from </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> the W3LPL-2 experiment. The next version will reduce the re-posting </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> interval to 30 minutes for all but the most rare DX callsigns. It will </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> also significanlty reduce the volume of DX spots on 40, 20 and 15 meters </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> for all but the most needed DXCC entities</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> The vast majority of comments about the W3LPL-2 experiment have been </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> very positive, and the few concerns received have mostly focused on </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> reducing the volume of spots.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> 73</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> Frank</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> W3LPL</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> ****************</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> With the RBN do we really need this on the regular cluster network?</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> 73</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> Wayne WA1PMA</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> On 3/20/2011 5:39 AM, Brendan Minish wrote:</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > On Sun, 2011-03-20 at 10:41 +0000, gu6efb wrote:</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> >> Hi Group</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> >></span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> >> What are sysops views on the rise of all theses skinners such as W3LPL</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> >> and UT7MA just to name a few.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> ></span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > It's My view that the Skimmers are extremely useful BUT have no place</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > feeding spots to the conventional network, under ANY circumstances,</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > ever.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> ></span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > There is a large network of skimmers. it's called the reverse beacon</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > network (RBN), My skimmer reports to it along with about 50 others.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > http://www.reversebeacon.net/</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> ></span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > The system does have telnet ports, one of which runs dxpsider however</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > the level of traffic would I suspect, bring the conventional cluster</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > knees.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > During CW contests the system handles a truly vast amount of spots.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > Yesterday for example during the RDX contest the RBN spider node reports</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > that there were 452,529 spots in 1 24 Hour period, My conventional</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > cluster node handled 17,246 spots</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> ></span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > Both W3LPL and UT7MA are active in the Russian DX contest as</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > multi-operator stations and seem to be spotting all QSO's from their</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > Search& Pounce (multiplier) station(s), This IS useful to other</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > contesters and a feature that many contest logging programs support. I</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > have used this on occasion myself but with my S&p run rates it's</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > unlikley to upset anyone ;-)</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> ></span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > I am not seeing skimmer spots from either station on the regular network</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > at present, Just S&P spots.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > W3LPL is submitting spots to RBN currently at the rate of several per</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > minute, as are the other connected skimmers</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> ></span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > By the way it's quite a testament to DXspider's abilities and Dirk's</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > coding that DXSpider can handle 90+ connected users at the very high</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > spot rates that RBN sees.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > However I suspect that there is room for further performance</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > optimisations for these traffic rates.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> ></span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> >> I have had a number of complaints about these skinner stations from my</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> >> users.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> >></span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> >> I have put the calls of skimmer stations in the badspotter list which</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> >> is helping.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > the problem with this is that both stations generate a lot of legitimate</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > spots too, I suspect it's really a user issue and it might be better</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > solved by asking stations sending skimmer spots to the regular network</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > not to do it</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> ></span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> >> I know that CC Cluster has a NO Skimmer command is this something that</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> >> we now need in Dx Spider?</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > VE7CC IS collecting skimmer spots from some skimmers directly, He did</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > ask me for a connection to my skimmer but at present I don't allow</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > inbound connections to it, I simply push a connection out to the RBN.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > I also think the needs of the DX community are better served by a single</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > system or network handling skimmer spots rather than disparate systems</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > each carrying only a portion of the shared skimmers.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> ></span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > It would be nice to see some features in Dxbase to allow easy peering</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > with nodes supporting skimmer spots so that there is no possibility of</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > these spots being leaked back to the regular cluster network.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > perhaps a variation of the set/node command that allows a peer to be</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > declared a skimmer nod and set up the filtering rules appropriately</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> ></span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > there would also need to be user commands to give the users control of</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > which types of spots they see.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> ></span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > I would love to run a node that carried Skimmer spots in addition to</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > regular spots but only propagate local spots back to the regular cluster</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > network.</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > Right now I mix feeds from RBN and my spider node on my local computer</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > with WintelnetX then feed this to my logging programs</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > http://www.k1ttt.net/software.html#wintelnetx</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#7F0000'>> > but it's a bit of a hack</span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN 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