<div dir="ltr">Most of the user disconnects I see are from users attempting to connect multiple simultaneous times using the same call (with or without SSID).  In just a couple hours, it looks like this:<div><br></div><div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">    </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged out</div><div>User<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">     </span>OE3UKW<span class="gmail-Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>has logged in</div></div><div><br></div><div>(I did email Christian and offered the solution of using separate SSIDs for each connection and he has rectified this.  This is my process for the moment when I see users with connection problems like this ("logged in/logged out").</div><div><br></div><div>Mike, WA9PIE</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Pascal Stevenhaagen [PB1SAM] via Dxspider-support <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@dxcluster.org" target="_blank">dxspider-support@dxcluster.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">The problem is that NAT and firewall don't know when a connection is ended.<br>
Therefore they work with a timeout.<br>
After the last packet is been send it starts a timeout.<br>
When no data is received/send anymore in the timeout time,<br>
the NAT/firewall function assumes the connection is ended, and forgets the session.<br>
That is the reason why your connection is lost.<br>
When you use Linux for NAT/firewall, you can make a rule for port 9000<br>
(or whatever port you use for connecting the cluster), and give it a long timeout time.<br>
<br>
On home routers/firewalls I am afraid there are no options to do this.<br>
Greetings,<br>
<br>
Pascal PB1SAM<span class="im HOEnZb"><br>
<br>
On 11/13/2016 10:54 PM, Rene Olsen via Dxspider-support wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi.<br>
<br>
Some home routers have settings that are not very friendly to low traffic connections.<br>
<br>
Some of them have a timeout of just 5 minutes, and tears down the connection of there<br>
hasn't been a noticeble amount of trafic on the connection.<br>
<br>
Not even a CR and a prompt back from spider, is enough traffic to maintain the connection<br>
open.<br>
<br>
I have no idea why they do this. But since it is home routers, it is probably a question about<br>
money and ressources in the router.<br>
<br>
I had a linksys router once, and with the default firmware I wasn't able to change the timeout<br>
setting, and it was just not able to maintain the connection to the cluser, when there was very<br>
low number of spots.<br>
<br>
After an update to some third party firmware, I was able to change the timeout setting, and<br>
since then I didn't have any problems at all.<br>
<br>
So in my opinion most diconnect issues, can be explained by the router in use.<br>
<br>
And its not like the router tells both ends, that the connection has been closed. No, it just<br>
removes it from the NAT table and thats it.<br>
<br>
Of course there is good and bad routers out there. I can only talk from my own experiences<br>
with home routers in the past.<br>
<br>
Vy 73 de René / OZ1LQH<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
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