Hi Dirk. Angel made me aware of something. I had not looked at the PC11 just before the crash carefully enough. It looked like this: KE9KD-2 PC11^18129.9^EK6GB^ 6-Oct-2002^1553Z^george^0F6IRA^F5KBW-3^H46^~ Seems like that spot crashed a lot of spiders. Vy 73 de Rene / OZ1LQH