MessageJay, > This is perl, v5.8.3 built for MSWin32-x86-multi-thread > (with 8 registered patches, see perl -V for more detail) I have never had it running with the version of perl; Can I suggest you get 5.6.1 and try that? There are some errors in the startup info you sent which you *really* can't ignore ...... Regards - Iain