[Dxspider-support] The SSID

[Dan Bookwalter]

Lee

i dont recall for sure , but i think DXS doesnt allow
the /w4 .... which is causing problems on the FOC
cluster... both W4/G4BUE and W4/VP9KF have an issue
with this since they dont want to log in without the
portable designators.... how do we work around this ??
Dan N8DCJ

--- Lee Sawkins <ve7cc at shaw.ca> wrote:

> I agree with Eric 100%.
> 
> Lee
> 
> 
> Eric Carling wrote:
> > 
> > Might it be better to keep the way SSIDs are
> handled the way it is
> > now but allow calls like SM7GVF/7 to be valid?
> > 
> > Although currently not permitted, I see no reason
> to stop that format
> > of callsign from logging in. Moreover, the /7 (or
> whatever)
> > identifier says a lot more than the -7 ssid which
> makes no sense as a
> > geographical identifier.
> > 
> > Or is there something in packet cluster protocol
> that prevents calls
> > containing a '/' ?
> > 
> > -------Original Message-------
> > 
> > From: Kjell Jarl
> > Date: 03/24/05 16:13:47
> > To: The DXSpider Support list
> > Subject: Re: [Dxspider-support] The SSID
> > 
> > Hi Dirk,
> > I agree on the result of set/badspotter.
> > 
> > However, ages ago, when I ran AK1A and DXNet, the
> SSID was presented
> > as
> > the source of the spotter, DXNet could be
> configured to not to.
> > Currently I do not know about DXNet.
> > 
> > I still want to be another station when using
> another SSID. I
> > understand
> > it involves a major rework of your code.
> > 
> > The advantage is twofold:
> > - Other users know I am not at home, the grid
> presented alongside my
> > spot is with the current location
> > - Other users can make a talk to the right
> call/SSID as it is
> > presented
> > 
> > The latter requires some knowledge from the users
> though.
> > 
> > Could a workaround be to distribute all talk
> messages to all
> > (non-dxnode) SSID calls connected? So If some one
> make a "talk sm7gvf
> > hi
> > there" it will be delivered to sm7gvf-7 as well? I
> think you have
> > mentioned that earlier.
> > 
> > Could you tell more maybe about the future
> protocol for us?
> > 
> > May I also add, that I appreciate all the work you
> have done with
> > this
> > code, it is an excellent program, works very
> nicely. We are just
> > fiddling on details here. You have very much
> contributed to the
> > community of radio amateurs. Thank you!
> > 
> > 73
> > Kjell
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Dirk Koopman wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 07:52 +0100, Kjell Jarl
> wrote:
> > >
> > >>Hi,
> > >>Why would the SSID be not important? Or rather
> what you said Dirk?
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > I didn't say that it is not important.
> > >
> > >
> > >>If I go to another (secondary perhaps) QTH and
> use SM7GVF-7, I
> > would
> > >>like to be treated as another user with other
> grid locators and so
> > on.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > And that is normally what happens (and is how I
> intend it),
> > although
> > > other people want to be treated more the same.
> > >
> > >
> > >>Now not even spots I put out is with my SSID
> included. People hav
> > no
> > >>idea I am at the other QTH.
> > >
> > >
> > > Spots have never been shown with SSID (except by
> accident).
> > >
> > >
> > >>I think this is in error.
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, this is a very difficult area. The issue
> is essentially one
> > of
> > > "how much of the 'personality' of G1TLH do I
> transfer to G1TLH-4".
> > There
> > > seem to be to, more or less, equal and opposite
> views:-
> > >
> > > 1. Treat SSIDs as the same person, mostly.
> > > 2. Treat SSIDs as different things that share
> the same callsign and
> > > name, but not much else, mostly.
> > >
> > > This debate has happened many times in the past
> and what you have
> > now is
> > > my interpretation of that. There are some
> issues, the most
> > important of
> > > which is: you cannot have exactly the same
> callsign connect more
> > than
> > > once to the same node. This is a fundamental
> limitation of the
> > program.
> > >
> > > However in the original context of
> "set/badspotter", the view (when
> > > these things brew up) is that sysops don't want
> to and actually
> > can't
> > > stop all SSID variations of a station that they
> want to ignore in
> > this
> > > way.
> > >
> > > It does not matter to them whether you are home
> or at your second
> > qth:
> > > if they want to set/badspot *you*, they want to
> do it wherever you
> > > are :-)
> > >
> > > 73 Dirk
> > >
> 
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