[Dxspider-support] ROS Mode

[Lee Sawkins]

It is sysops with your attitude that cause a lot of the problems.  You 
cannot see the bigger picture.  As long as you can't be blamed for the 
problem you could care less whether the rest of the system works or not. 
No, I didn't ask 4Z5LZ to register users.  I just added his call to the bad 
node list and added ROS to the bad word list.

I have privately sent emails to sysops letting them know that their 
registered users are abusing the system.  They then lock them out. 
Sometimes it takes weeks and several emails.  However, these abusers then 
simply move somewhere else and continue.  I then send another private 
message to the new abused cluster sysop.  It would be much easier to make as 
list of abuser's  IP addresses and drop their spots no matter where they 
came from.  I do this now when I can.  Currently there are 224 IP addresses 
in my abuser's list.  Of the last 100,000 DX spots I have dropped almost 500 
by matching these IPs to spots.

Lee

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Henk Remijn PA5KT" <pa5kt at remijn.net>
To: <ve7cc at shaw.ca>
Cc: "The DXSpider Support list" <dxspider-support at dxcluster.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 4:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Dxspider-support] ROS Mode


> There is no hole in the the security. It is a choice of the sysop to allow 
> not-registered users to spot.
> Apparently 4z5lz has choosen not to switch on the security.
> Did you already mail him to ask if he could switch it on?
>
> Nobody is taking you serious if you tell everybody that only your software 
> is perfect and they do it all wrong.
>
> 73 Henk PA5KT
>
> Lee Sawkins schreef:
>> The 4Z5LZ-2 spotters are exploiting the hole in Spider security, which I 
>> have pointed out before.  They connect, immediately send a spot and 
>> immediately disconnect.   I would not be surprised to see more of this.
>>
>>
>>
>> If Dirk would include IP addresses in the Spider spots, at the least the 
>> non-Spider nodes would have a chance to dump these spots.  As it is now, 
>> the only way to do defend against this is to not connect to Spider 
>> clusters.  I have put code into CC Cluster software specifically to help 
>> Spider clusters. It would be nice if the favour were returned.
>>
>>
>>
>>> From looking at these spots, it would appear they are malicious.  I 
>>> can't
>> believe that someone could write software like this by mistake.
>>
>> Lee
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brendan Minish" 
>> <ei6iz.brendan at gmail.com>
>> To: <dave at g7rau.co.uk>; "The DXSpider Support list" 
>> <dxspider-support at dxcluster.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Dxspider-support] ROS Mode
>>
>>
>>> I think that the author of the (proprietary and un-documented) ROS mode
>>> software has done something with regard to automatic spotting that has
>>> not worked so well.
>>>
>>> I'll leave it to others to attempt to engage the Author in dialogue and
>>> explain why auto/spotting everything is a terrible idea.
>>>
>>> I can't see how 4Z5LZ-2 is picking up these spots as the spotting users
>>> don't appear to be connected to this node
>>>
>>> for now I have set 4Z5LZ-2 as a badnode and this has stemmed the tide
>>> here at EI7MRE
>>>
>>> perhaps the sysop of 4Z5LZ-2 might explain how these ROS spots are
>>> entering the system at his node?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 21:51 +0100, Dave Edwards wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> Are all these spots with "ROS Mode" in the info for real or are these
>>>> being injected into the cluster by a database / central system?
>>>>
>>>> 73 de Dave - GB7RAU
>>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> 73
>>> Brendan EI6IZ
>>>
>>>
>
>
> -- 
> Henk Remijn PA5KT
> email: pa5kt at remijn.net
> www: www.remijn.net
>