[Dxspider-support] LU9DA-6 and QRZ.COM

Sun Jun 19 01:01:30 BST 2011

Hi, Steve

No problem for write the program, before this new, very restrictive rules in 
qrz.com I write a couple of qrz.pl replacements working well.

If other hams in the world tell me the source of raw data for callsigns in 
their countries, its very possible a new dxspider search extension for 
callsign data...

Regards

Rick LU9DA

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve - AA4U" <aa4u at mchsi.com>
To: <dxspider-support at dxcluster.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Dxspider-support] LU9DA-6 and QRZ.COM

> Rick,
>
> Good luck finding an existing FREE service.
>
> If only I was a programmer...
>
> The raw data is FREE from our FCC for stateside callsigns and other 
> sources  for the rest of the world. If only someone could write a small 
> front-end program that pulls the Name & QTH information, much like the US 
> Database lookup inside DXSpider.
>
> 73, Steve - AA4U
>
>
> On 6/18/2011 6:40 PM, Ricardo Suarez wrote:
>> I have no intention to pay AA7BQ for share personal data.... I not ask 
>> users pay money for access to my dxcluster node, then I begin to search 
>> for another, free,  source of callsign information.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Rick LU9DA
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony (N2KI)" <n2ki at hvc.rr.com>
>> To: "'The DXSpider Support list'" <dxspider-support at dxcluster.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 10:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Dxspider-support] LU9DA-6 and QRZ.COM
>>
>>
>> It is still functional on my node due to my subscription.
>>
>>
>> Anthony - N2KI
>> www.n2ki.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dxspider-support-bounces at dxcluster.org
>> [mailto:dxspider-support-bounces at dxcluster.org] On Behalf Of David 
>> Spoelstra
>> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 5:20 PM
>> To: The DXSpider Support list
>> Subject: Re: [Dxspider-support] LU9DA-6 and QRZ.COM
>>
>> I just tried "sh/qrz n9kt" and I find that the command in no longer
>> working on my node and it has been up till now...
>> -David, N9KT
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Anthony (N2KI) <n2ki at hvc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I emailed Fred and asked about the function of QRZ as a subscriber. If
>> you are a subscriber (like myself) your sh/qrz function should work. I 
>> make
>> my registered users aware of the fact that the sh/qrz functions works off 
>> of
>> my personal subscription. However, non- registered users (I believe) also
>> can use the sh/qrz command.
>>> Anthony (N2KI)
>>> www.n2ki.com
>>> Sent from BlackBerry
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: "Ricardo Suarez" <eleu9da at ciudad.com.ar>
>>> Sender: dxspider-support-bounces at dxcluster.orgDate: Sat, 18 Jun 2011
>> 18:47:20
>>> To: The DXSpider Support list<dxspider-support at dxcluster.org>
>>> Reply-To: The DXSpider Support list <dxspider-support at dxcluster.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Dxspider-support] LU9DA-6 and QRZ.COM
>>>
>>> Hi, Dirk
>>>
>>> this new rules.....
>>>
>>>
>>> ***********
>>>
>>>
>>> QRZ Callsign Database Policy Change
>>> Effective today, the QRZ Callsign database is changing the way we serve
>>> callsign data to our web (browser) based users. These changes have been
>>> brought on by a steadily increasing number of automated systems that
>> access
>>> the QRZ data in so-called hidden or stealth mode. Such systems create a
>>> significant load on the QRZ servers and in doing so, deprive ordinary
>> users
>>> of the performance that they deserve.
>>>
>>> These robots (or 'bots') come in many forms. Some are designed to scrape
>>> the entire website for every piece of information we have. Others, known
>> as
>>> "log checkers" are programs written by hams that repeatedly query the 
>>> QRZ
>>> servers while working through lists of 10's of thousands of callsigns,
>> doing
>>> it as rapidly as possible. Finally, some logging programs provide "auto
>>> fill" features that use the QRZ servers in the background to fetch
>> callsign
>>> data as soon as the user types in a callsign.
>>>
>>> For the past several years, QRZ has provided an XML Data service that 
>>> was
>>> specifically designed to serve automated requests such as those 
>>> described
>>> above. The XML service is an extremely lightweight and flexible system
>> that
>>> places less than 1/10 of the load on our database that a "stealth"
>> callsign
>>> lookup does on our regular pages. In addition, our advertisers are being
>>> deprived of ad exposures by these programs which routinely ignore or
>> discard
>>> all such non-callsign data as they scrape our site.
>>>
>>> Today's changes address these issues with a new set of constraints that
>> we
>>> have developed with the goal of providing fast and fair access to all 
>>> QRZ
>>> users. The following is a summary of what these measures mean:
>>>
>>> a.. Callsign data, including name, address, and other QSL and logging
>>> information will be shown only to registered users of QRZ who are logged
>> in
>>> at the time of the request. Guests that have not logged in will still 
>>> see
>>> the callsign Bio page and pictures, but no callsign information will be
>>> shown.
>>> b.. Registered users who are logged in will see the full detail on
>>> callsign pages.
>>> c.. Ham users, i.e. those whose user name matches a callsign in our
>>> database, are limited to 150 callsign page lookups per day, not 
>>> including
>>> their own callsign page.
>>> d.. Non-ham users, i.e. users who aren't hams or don't have a username
>>> that matches one of our callsigns, will be limited to 25 callsign 
>>> lookups
>>> per day.
>>> e.. QRZ subscribers, of any type, are granted unlimited daily access to
>>> the QRZ callsign data.
>>>
>>> These limits are designed for fairness and the vast majority of our ham
>>> users will never be affected by them, aside from the new requirement 
>>> that
>>> you must be logged in to see callsign data. Note as well that when 
>>> looking
>>> up or viewing your own callsign page that the act does not count against
>>> your daily lookup limit.
>>>
>>> We ask for your support in accepting these changes and understanding 
>>> that
>>> they were necessary in order to maintain the high level of service and
>>> support that our users have grown accustomed to.
>>> Fred Lloyd, AA7BQ
>>> Publisher, QRZ.COM
>>> aa7bq at qrz.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ******
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick LU9DA
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dirk Koopman G1TLH" <gb7tlh at dxcluster.org>
>>> To: "The DXSpider Support list" <dxspider-support at dxcluster.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 6:25 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Dxspider-support] LU9DA-6 and QRZ.COM
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 18/06/11 18:37, Ricardo Suarez wrote:
>>>>> Hello all
>>>>>
>>>>> Because the new rules from AA7BQ for the access to qrz.com's database,
>>>>> the node lu9da-6 have blocked the qrz search engine, sh/qrz.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Er... what new rules?
>>>>
>>>>> Maybe in this days (holydays), I work in a new replacement, based in
>>>>> other ham radio callsing database.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Which other databases are there that have the coverage of qrz.com?
>>>>
>>>> Dirk
>>>>
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