[Dxspider-support] Help needed - still unable to save user_asc files

Rene Olsen rene.chr.olsen at gmail.com
Fri Dec 27 10:24:19 CET 2019


Hi.

I am running Spider on a cloud server, the absolute smallest one I could get.

I think it is 1 vCPU, 512 MB RAM and 20 GB storage. What 1 vCPU is I have no clue, but 
working on the shell and the speed in spider i OK for me.

I seldomly have more than 50 users though. I have no idea what would happen if it was 10 
times that or more.

Running debian OS.

Am running DX Spider Cluster version 1.55 (build 0.181 git: 65ed61f[r]) on Linux, which I am 
sure is probably not the most recent one. I don't really recall when I last did an update.

Vy 73 de René OZ1LQH


On 27 Dec 2019 at 8:21, Ian Maude via Dxspider-suppor wrote:

> So I guess this poses a couple of questions.  What is the OS and is anybody else running Spider on a Cloud instance?
> 
> 73 Ian
> On 26 Dec 2019, 20:20 +0000, Dirk Koopman via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>, wrote:
> > More than once, probably about six times.
> >
> > One can rebuild the user file and restart the node. All is then well for a while. I believe I have seen it work for more than one week, but within another week or two it will revert to an empty user file. It MAY be related to spawned jobs which write to the user file thus corrupting the user file, but not every time and, in any case, I can't see any spawn jobs that might do a write. I am reluctant to put in file spin locks but it may become necessary. It MIGHT be memory usage, but there is no objective evidence for a lack thereof.
> >
> > Mike seems to have the only instance of "standard" (i.e. non-mojo) DXSpider that can (at least for a time) support 1000+ users on quite a lowly single processor GCloud instance - and seemingly with room for many more. As you know Ian, us lesser mortals start to see serious CPU usage above about 4-500 users (depending on processor). And worse, it appears that the mojo branch runs like a snail on mogodon on an identical instance in the same data centre. Which is the exact opposite of anyone else's experience.
> >
> > Mike is unwilling to run his node on dedicated hardware for perfectly reasonable reasons. But otherwise, I am stumped.
> >
> > Dirk G1TLH
> >
> > On 26/12/2019 14:35, Michael Carper, Ph.D. via Dxspider-support wrote:
> > > Yes. Actually Dirk also attempted it. No good.
> > >
> > > I was also wondering if it´s a permissions issue. But I think it´s fine.
> > >
> > > I´ll send you images of that tomorrow.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > > On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 7:57 PM Ian Maude via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > Also, have you tried rebuilding the user file?
> > > > >
> > > > > 73 Ian
> > > > > On 26 Dec 2019, 09:30 +0000, Michael Carper, Ph.D. via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>, wrote:
> > > > > > For more than a year now, WA9PIE-2 has been unable to save user_asc files.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <image.png>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This began happening without warning and without making any other changes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As a result, even familiar users who connect get this:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <image.png>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 'Most' of the users of this cluster are Ham Radio Deluxe users... and we send the user's info (answers to these questions) to the cluster each time a connection is made... but this is still a major pain.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ANYONE have any thoughts about this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike, VK4/WA9PIE
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