[Dxspider-support] [Trouble Ticket #845] DXSpider RTTY

Mike G3YPP mike at g3ypp.uk
Sat Feb 12 13:49:45 GMT 2022 

A work around is to set all modes in N1MM Bands/modes, and then set/skimmer RTTY at the cluster
I am only seeing RTTY spots at the moment in the bandmap.

Mike

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Hi Dirk

I tried set/width 120 but the spots are still displaying RTT not RTTY. N1MM Contest logger is looking for RTTY

73 Rob

From: Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces at tobit.co.uk> On Behalf Of Dirk Koopman via Dxspider-support
Sent: 12 February 2022 13:42
To: Joaquin . via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>
Cc: Dirk Koopman <djk at tobit.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Dxspider-support] [Trouble Ticket #845] DXSpider RTTY Spots

set/width 120

is your friend:-) And its sticky too.

73 Dirk G1TLH

On 12/02/2022 13:15, Joaquin . via Dxspider-support wrote:
Human beings never cease to amaze me more and more every day.

We want to have as much information as possible in our window, but our window has a standard size of 80 columns for all the fields we want to see simultaneously.
Difficult solution to be able to please everyone without modifying or losing something.

We are not very flexible and our input is the default complaint.

It is at least surprising that the N1MM developers do not keep track of the main sources of spots, and in particular of the most used software on the Net.

Kin EA3CV

El s?b, 12 feb 2022 a las 13:25, Rob Harrison via Dxspider-support (<dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk<mailto:dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>>) escribi?:
My response to K3CT (one of the N1MM Dev Team) was:-

Hi John,

Yes the raw feed from the RTTY Skimmer includes RTTY in the comment field however DXSpider (the most popular cluster software) takes the RBN feed and reformats the spots to include better information in the comments field...... but the mode is written as RTT not RTTY. It would be helpful if N1MM  was to recognise the comment RTT as RTTY. Typical output from the DXspider cluster RBN version is as below.

The RBN website encourages users to connect to a cluster not the telnet feed directly. "Our intent is that "retail" DX clusters should connect via telnet to one these nodes, and that end-users should connect to the "retail" nodes."

Regards

Rob
DX de DF7GB-#:   14106.3  RW4W         RTT 22dB Q:5* Z:15             1210Z
DX de DO4DXA-#:  21085.6  TF1AM        RTT 16dB Q:3*+ Z:8             1210Z
DX de SQ5M/P-#:   7038.0  PI4CC        CW   5dB Q:9+ Z:14             1210Z
DX de HB9JCB-#:   7035.0  SP1AEN       CW  12dB Q:9+ Z:16             1210Z
DX de HG8A-#:    10115.0  PA/IZ0NGH    CW  12dB Q:8* Z:14,40          1210Z
DX de LY2XW-#:   14026.4  PE1BQE       CW  15dB Q:4* Z:5              1210Z
DX de OE9GHV-#:   7050.4  G0FGI        RTT 29dB Q:3 Z:14              1210Z
DX de OE9GHV-#:  14125.5  LB2TG        RTT 22dB Q:2 Z:14              1210Z
DX de MM0ZBH-#:  10114.0  OM6AN/P      CW  17dB Q:6+ Z:15             1210Z
DX de HA1AG-#:   14044.0  PA2JWN       CW   7dB Q:9*+ Z:20            1210Z
DX de MM0ZBH-#:  21026.1  YO4PX        CW  30dB Q:9* Z:16,17,18       1210Z
DX de DF7GB-#:   14135.3  OH1NOA       RTT 29dB Q:2+ Z:15             1210Z
DX de G4ZFE-#:   14113.2  RL9LR        RTT 20dB Q:8* Z:5,15,16,20     1210Z


From: Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces at tobit.co.uk<mailto:dxspider-support-bounces at tobit.co.uk>> On Behalf Of Rob Harrison via Dxspider-support
Sent: 12 February 2022 12:21
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Cc: Rob Harrison <g4ujs at outlook.com<mailto:g4ujs at outlook.com>>
Subject: [Dxspider-support] FW: [Trouble Ticket #845] DXSpider RTTY Spots

Hi All

See below, I reported to the N1M development team that Spider RBN RTTY spots are not recognised.. as RTTY due to RTT not RTTY in the comments... I have responded to K3CT with more detail regarding the reformatting of spots but we will see. One smart individual said to my post:

"Looks to me as either a bug or faulty design RTTY has been called RTTY for over 60 years...

However simple enough, set cluster to reject all spot comments except for RTT and then set N1MM to accept everything it receives.

Alternative use a DX cluster that does not change RTTY to RTT."

Not really useful..... Dirk it maybe useful if you emailed N1MM

73 Rob G4UJS

From: N1MM TroubleTicket <Support at hamdocs.com<mailto:Support at hamdocs.com>>
Sent: 12 February 2022 11:11
To: rob.harrison at mis-specialists.co.uk<mailto:rob.harrison at mis-specialists.co.uk>
Subject: [Trouble Ticket #845] DXSpider RTTY Spots


k3ct wrote:

We have a note in the source code that the rtty skimmer includes "RTTY" in the comment field.

Could be a bug in the cluster software?

John, K3CT

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G4UJS 2022/02/12 04:23:53(reply)

Additional information. DXSpider reformats RBN spots, this is what the output looks like.

DX de F6IIT-#: 7020.0 ON75ODE CW 31dB Q:9+ Z:15 0922Z
DX de OH2BBT-#: 14090.0 9A5D RTT 49dB Q:8+ Z:20 0922Z
DX de G4ZFE-#: 21101.8 UA3QJJ RTT 15dB Q:2 Z:20 0922Z
DX de DE1LON-#: 21088.0 9A1A RTT 16dB Q:2+ Z:16 0922Z
DX de DE1LON-#: 21116.8 R9OK RTT 24dB Q:2+ Z:20 0920Z

73 de Rob G4UJS

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G4UJS 2022/02/11 19:58:30(report)

RTTY RBN spots from DXSpider are identified by RTT as the first 3 characters of the comments field.

N1MM doesn't seem to identify these RTTY spots as RTTY spots!!

Can this be adjusted please?

73 de Rob G4UJS

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