[Dxspider-support] Interesting Problem with spots format and N1MM

[Ian Maude]

From my point of view, the DXCluster has to keep pace with the times.  RBN is a prime example.  There is only so much space on a line and callsigns get ever more complicated.  I remember the fun when Australia released novice calls with an extra character.

The logging programs out there that connect to the clusters need to be able to access those facilities.  It is not up to the cluster software authors to change their software to suit the logging programs.  If logging software is no longer supported, then you either need to live with it or change program.

If nothing changed, we would still be using DOS and AK1A.  Whilst I appreciate the frustration of logging program authors, the cluster is a server and the logging programs the clients.  You don’t change the server to suit the clients.

There is a mailing list (cluster-tech) set up for discussion between cluster and logging program authors.  I am sure that everyone can work together to improve things for the end user, which is why all this is done in the first place.

73 Ian

> On 23 Jan 2022, at 07:57, Rob Harrison via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Seems strange that the worlds number one cluster program and worlds number one contest logging program are incompatible with each other
> 
> 73
> 
> Rob Harrison
> 07826 958358
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 23 Jan 2022, at 07:26, Iain Philipps via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Question:
>> 
>> Who set this “de facto standard”, exactly?
>>  
>>  
>> 73 de WR3D
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>>  
>> From: Dxspider-support [mailto:dxspider-support-bounces at tobit.co.uk] On Behalf Of Björn Ekelund via Dxspider-support
>> Sent: 23 January 2022 05:25
>> To: The DXSpider Support list
>> Cc: Björn Ekelund
>> Subject: Re: [Dxspider-support] Interesting Problem with spots format and N1MM
>>  
>> DXLog used to have exactly the same problem and we ended up redesigning the spot parsing just because of this. 
>>  
>> DXSpider omits the colon after the spotter's callsign if it is longer than 7 characters. As I have pointed out to Dirk, 
>> I think this is a very unfortunate deviation from the de facto standard formatting of spots. Many software software 
>> rely on the colon being there and some of them are no longer maintained.
>>  
>> Björn SM7IUN
>>  
>> Den lör 22 jan. 2022 kl 14:28 skrev Rob Harrison via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk <mailto:dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>>:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I am trying to do the BARTG RTTY SPRINT today, but noticed that many spots are being filtered that should not be in N1MM
>> 
>> If you look at the attached image you will see spots greyed out ((filtered) that shouldn't be. I have noticed that every spot that N1MM deems OK has a : (colon) at the end...but spots that don't have the colon such as OH9GHV are filtered...... looks like DXspider doesn't have room for the colon.
>> 
>> Help
>> 
>> 73 de Rob G4UJS
>>  
>> Rob Harrison
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