[Dxspider-support] HB9DRV-9, what is it?

Kin ea3cv at cronux.net
Thu Mar 16 09:52:39 GMT 2023


Hi all,

* Objective data:

PC92^IW9FDD-6^36001^A^^7WW1R-6:UNKNOWN^H97^
PC92^IW9FDD-6^37801.02^A^^7PY5JO-1:UNKNOWN^H95^
PC92^DJ4PK-2^38100.02^A^^7HB9DRV-9:UNKNOWN^H93^
PC92^IW9FDD-6^69612.03^A^^5RW3XA-8:UNKNOWN^H95^
PC92^SM6YOU-2^42120.02^A^^5SM6HOC-6:UNKNOWN^H93^

IW9FDD-6    1.55  0.82      Parent: BG2RVL-9, PY1NB-4, PY5JO-11, 
                                    RW3XA-8, VE9SC, WW1R-9
DJ4PK-2     1.55  67        Parent: DD5XX-10, WA9PIE-2
SM6YOU-2	1.55  0.82      Parent: IZ0FKE, SK6AW-2, SM6HOC-6,
                                    SM6YOU-4, SM6YOU-7

Entries between day 065 and day 075, all PC92:

HB9DRV-9 33491		5HB9DRV-9 15458	                  Type: A ???
                    7HB9DRV-9 18033
					
WW1R-6   16635		5WW1R-6 3672        5401          Type: A
                    7WW1R-6 12963
					
PY5JO-1  23910		5PY5JO-1 11364      5401          Type: A
                    7PY5JO-1 12546
					
RW3XA-8    136		5RW3XA-8 136        1.57  497
                    7RW3XA-8 0
					
SM6HOC-6    18		5SM6HOC-6 18        1.57  499
                    7SM6HOC-6 0

I have not been able to find out the differences between the 5 and the 7 in front of the callsign. If anyone knows, I would be grateful if you could share this information.

* My conclusions:

It seems that the common origin of all these PC92 sentences with 'UNKNOWN' information, lies in nodes with ARCHAIC versions.
In the specific case of HB9DRV-9, it seems that it should be WA9PIE-2, because WA9PIE-2 is really the node associated with DJ4PK-2.

* Own observations:

Keeping an outdated, misconfigured or forgotten node can lead to problems and wasted time when a problem arises in the network and we want to narrow it down.

Kin EA3CV



Our knowledge can only be finite, while our ignorance must necessarily be infinite.  Karl Popper

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces at tobit.co.uk> En nombre de Iain Philipps via Dxspider-support
Enviado el: miércoles, 15 de marzo de 2023 22:14
Para: 'The DXSpider Support list' <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>
CC: Iain Philipps <iain.philipps at 77hz.net>
Asunto: Re: [Dxspider-support] HB9DRV-9, what is it?
Importancia: Alta

I had a quick look at this; it appears to be a Windows Server 2016 box.

Then:

[root at courier ~]# nslookup spider.ham-radio.ch
Server:         8.8.8.8
Address:        8.8.8.8#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:   spider.ham-radio.ch
Address: 81.174.138.141

[root at courier ~]# nslookup blackbeauty.sdr-radio.com
Server:         8.8.8.8
Address:        8.8.8.8#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:   blackbeauty.sdr-radio.com
Address: 81.174.138.141

... and of course,    telnet blackbeauty.sdr-radio.com 8000     will get you the Spider login prompt (no surprise).

I recall listening to GD4ELI (as he then was) in the evenings 45 years ago on either 40 or 80M (when I lived in London). Simon was (is?) clearly barking mad but one of the good guys :-)

He's not doing this on purpose; most likely the VM is running in a dark corner of that server and it has been long since forgotten.

Ian says it is "dead"; let's just lock it out and move on. Please?



73 de WR3D


-----Original Message-----
From: Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces at tobit.co.uk> On Behalf Of Mikel EA2CW via Dxspider-support
Sent: 15 March 2023 19:13
To: Kin EA3CV via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>
Cc: Mikel EA2CW <ea2cw at gautxori.com>
Subject: Re: [Dxspider-support] HB9DRV-9, what is it?

Agreed, Kin, but there are more strange things in relation to this...

Yesterday I browsed to http://www.hamcluster.net/Map.aspx and searched for HB9DRV-9. The page shown me on the map this data:
  HB9DRV-9
  spider.ham-radio.ch 8000
  Uptime: 32d 18h
  Links: 6
  DXSpider V 1.57 build 511

Well, all ok up to this time, .CH is the TLD for Switzerland. So, then I browsed to http://wwww.ham-radio.ch and there I found this:

www.ham-radio.ch
   By HB9DRV
www.ham-radio.ch and www.hb9drv.ch are registered to:
   Simon Brown (HB9DRV)
   Postfach xxx
   xxxxx xxxx
   Switzerland

simon at hb9drv.ch
  +41 (0)xxxxxxxxxx

Well, all ok again, so the last step was to connect to the node using
telnet:

telnet spider.ham-radio.ch 8000. The node was up, and the answer was:

This is the G4ELI-9 DX-Cluster system using DXSpider software If you are getting echo and you don't want it, do: unset/echo or (if you are a Microsoft telnet user) disable 'local echoing'.
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
! This system may only be accessed by Radio Amateurs using their real !
!  callsigns and in accordance with their jurisdiction's licensing    !
!      conditions. All connections to this system are recorded.       !
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
login:

You said HB9DRV-9 was answered by a node named after a US callsign.
Now you have another address to a "route" being answered by an UK callsign.

I don't understand what is going on, and yes, by the moment I will block that node.

73, Mikel

El 15/03/2023 a las 16:16, Kin EA3CV via Dxspider-support escribió:
> Mikel,
>
> My interpretation for the captured traces is simple: either someone is 
> usurping the callsign or some modification has been made that leads to 
> the data that I already showed.
> In the absence of more information, I think it should be marked as 
> set/badnode HB9DRV-9 until it's clear what's going on, but only if 
> you're concerned about network stability.
>
> Kin EA3CV
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