[Dxspider-support] Curiosities about network topology

[Kin]

Hi Andrea,
 
I believe that if we were to use a routing protocol for a network model like ours—with flooding and a mesh network—I wouldn’t rely on BGP. There are others that are better suited to this model, perhaps:
 
AODV (Ad hoc On-Demand Distance Vector)
OLSR (Optimized Link State Routing)
 
However, the algorithm Dirk has implemented in DXSpider is highly sophisticated and extremely efficient, with minimal impact on the host’s CPU. I can’t comment on other types of nodes, as I haven’t tested them.
 
What I feel is missing is a standardized routing protocol that all nodes would be required to use, regardless of the type of node.
 
Even between CCcluster and DXSpider, the current pc9x isn’t being used in the same way, and it’s better not to discuss those types of nodes that unfortunately aren’t even aware of what that is.
 
There are two types of maintenance in a network: one focuses on the node/router itself, and the other on the network as a whole. Since this isn’t a business with a financial objective, neither is carried out as we might hope. In a way, this is similar to other aspects of radio.
 
It’s impossible to know how many nodes are active on the network at any given time.
There’s no international body to oversee and ensure proper use of the network.
There isn’t even an inventory to consult regarding who manages which node.
 
We should start addressing these issues, even if it’s challenging, it’s not impossible.
 
Regards,
 
Kin EA3CV
 
 
 
EA3CV-2 dxcluster.cronux.net 7300
http://clustermap.cronux.net/map.html
 
 
De: Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces at tobit.co.uk> En nombre de IZ2LSC via Dxspider-support
Enviado el: martes, 3 de diciembre de 2024 8:27
Para: The DXSpider Support list <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>
CC: IZ2LSC <iz2lsc.andrea at gmail.com>
Asunto: Re: [Dxspider-support] Curiosities about network topology
 
This topic is very close to what happened with BGP (Border Gateway Protocol) that is the routing protocol that manages all the internet routes (so very solid, well designed, scalable).

If we want to do something more structured we can take inspiration from BGP introducing the concept of Autonomous System, Route Reflector and Confederations.
 
73
 
Andrea
iz2lsc
 
 
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Il giorno lun 2 dic 2024 alle ore 22:13 Keith Maton via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk <mailto:dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk> > ha scritto:
Yeah, we have too many nodes and the nodes we have, have many more partners than they need.  I’m as guilty of this as the next person.
 
If someone asks me to be a partner node, I find it very difficult to turn them down, in fact, I don’t think I’ve rejected anyones request.  If they’ve gone out of their way to ask me, they must have a reason for it so I think it’d be rude to reject it.  I do now insist that they connect to me rather than vice versa.
 
On the positive side it means we have a very robust system and huge chunks of it could fail but we’d all still get our spots, and we’d still get them quickly.  
 
73 Keith
 



On 2 Dec 2024, at 17:59, Kin via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk <mailto:dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk> > wrote:
 
*snip*
 
Makes you think, doesn't it?
 
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