[Dxspider-support] DX-Cluster mojo-version - great problems...

Johannes Fellner joefellner at gmx.at
Sat Mar 2 08:03:21 GMT 2024


Hi Dirk,

Sorry to hear that your life/living arrangements are upside down. I hope
you find your way. It's a hobby and we are all grateful to everyone
putting time and energy into making things better.

I was trying to support Wolfram in that matter also looking into the
code but could not figure out what the problem is.

But I did some tests and basically two things described in the help
function do not work:

  * As you already tested the sending of messages in talk mode. But I
found that whenever one adds a special char (like @, !, : , and so on)
at the begin the message gets send over by the talk function. So my
guess it is a regex that does not detect the command properly.

  * And the // to send a message (with info) to everyone also seems not
to work.

No sure if this will help you narrow it down quicker. Thanks for taking
care!


The abusive situation that Wolfram faces is basically two users
complaining that the system is not working like they expect. And blame
the sysop. I guess only the fix of the issue will settle the dispute for
good as they are not understanding the situation.

Sidenote:  the email messages from the ML are send with a huge delay.
Sometimes days later.

And when browsing the git webinterface is "hangs". Looks like the server
is stuck in a high load situation?

Thanks a lot!

73 Joe, OE5JFE


On 28.02.2024 14:41, Dirk Koopman via Dxspider-support wrote:
> Wolfram
>
> I'm sorry I have not replied earlier. My life/living arrangements are
> not very stable at the moment and I have not had the chance to look at
> DXSpider nor your problems until now.
>
> 1. You are correct "Talk" does not appear to "work" for callsigns not
> connected to the same node. I will look at this at my next development
> window - which will happen soon.
>
> 2. I will need much more information about the abuse that you are
> receiving with actual samples in order to suggest solutions. If you
> can make ssh access available, and you have some
> dates/times/callsigns/IP addresses that I can search for in the debug
> logs, that might be a quicker solution.
>
> 73 Dirk G1TLH
>
> On 26/02/2024 10:53, Wolfram - dl3ami via Dxspider-support wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I’m DL3AMI, sysop of db0erf-5.
>>
>> I need help. DB0ERF has running dx-spider since 2003 and a other
>> cluster AK1a
>> and CLX since 1992.
>> I have chang the dxspider from the normal master-version to the
>> mojo-version –
>> was it a mistake??!!  At DB0ERF many users have a password – so the
>> change was
>> not a not a problem….
>>
>> Now its a verry great problem with talk. It is not operating – but
>> look down
>> for this…..
>>
>> I have written to Dirk, but I have not get any answer…..
>>
>> Maybe it’s possible, that any other HAM can help.
>> I’m wondering, that nobody has this problems – is it an error at my
>> side????
>>
>> Now look down to mean mail to Dirk.
>> But first – again many thanks for this complex program to Dirk and I
>> will
>> continue to say „Tahnk you“.
>> But no resolution for problems and my old mail to Dirk
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Hi Dirk
>>
>> Im using a DX-Cluster since 1992. First AK1A, then CLX and then a
>> derivate and
>> then 2003 DX-Spider from you. And I have often written – thank you –
>> this is a
>> big software!!.
>> OK, my english is not very good.  But I think it’s possible to
>> unterstand.
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> I have written directly and via the mail-list to you in the last
>> weeks. Yes, I
>> understand, if you dont have time, or a problem is complex und you
>> need time
>> for it…
>>
>> But:
>> I have great problems and are attacked by HAMs which say, that I am
>> incompetent and discriminate them, so I really need urgent help.
>> Could you
>> please help solving the problems descibed below?
>> It’s not a confortable situation beeing blamed while ..
>>
>> Ok, in sequence now -  i use the “mojo“-version…
>>
>>
>> Problem #1:
>> -----------
>> The DX-Spider here get no update since 15. march 2023 - its the last
>> version
>> or not?.
>>
>> sh/version:
>> DXSpider v1.57 (build 524 git: mojo/f43ac25[r]) using perl v5.20.2 on
>> Linux
>> Copyright (c) 1998-2024 Dirk Koopman G1TLH
>>
>> Gitupdate.script:
>> =================
>> cd /spider
>> git reset --hard
>> git pull
>> ------------------
>> root at db0erf-deb:/afu/dxspider# ./gitupdate
>> HEAD is now at f43ac25 changed X & Y to 27 & 20 for cmd Dos
>> protection Already
>> up-to-date.
>>
>> Have I done wrong steps for the update????
>>
>>
>> Problem #2: (the great)
>> ------------------------
>> Talk is not working:
>>
>> On mojo = db0erf-5:
>>
>> DF0TA de DL3AMI: Starting talking to you
>> DF0TA de DL3AMI: hallo
>> hallo
>> Ungueltiger Befehl
>> DF0TA de DB0ERF-5  6-Feb-2024 1123Z dxspider >
>> …..
>> Talk from mojo-cluster is not possible absolutely.
>> The normal user in the net does not know the difference between a
>> mojo-cluster
>> and a master-cluster. It’s all dx-cluster. And they say: It’s working
>> at all
>> clusters, but at db0erf-5 the HAMs will be blocked and
>> discriminate!!!!!!
>>
>> Problem #3:
>> -----------
>> If talk is not working, then I want to go back to the master-version. At
>> DB0ERF-5 many HAMs have a password. I know no posssibility for the
>> user-database going back with passwords…. Rrrrrrr
>> Is there a way to go back to the master state with the user-data and
>> passwords????
>> If not, so I must hear I’m incompetent and discriminate users (with
>> the at
>> db0erf-5 not working function….)
>>
>> Problem #4:
>> -----------
>> I want to install the mojo-version new and fort the first time (for a
>> test).
>> But I cannot find the mojo-version or source for mojo-install.
>> At the websides of the DXSpider Download Area
>> (http://www.dxcluster.org) I can
>> only find the master-version.
>> Is only the master-version available now or what am I doing wrong?
>>
>>
>> 73 de Wolfram DL3AMi  Sysop DB0ERF-5
>>
>>
>>
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