[Dxspider-support] Spot with False Origin Nodes

Keith, G6NHU g6nhu at me.com
Tue Feb 4 18:47:08 GMT 2025


Hi Lorenzo,

I have a couple of things I hope you can clear up.

There was thousands of WWA spots posted on the network supposedly via N9SIN.   This callsign is not a known cluster node, we could find no links to it and no reference to it anywhere.

Where did these spots come from?

Also, there’s been a post saying that some WWA spots were supposedly posted from EA2CW.  This is a node which is locked down and all users have to be registered with a password.   None of the callsigns which appeared to have posted these spots are registered on EA2CW.  I’ve not seen any IP headers for these spots but I suspect that they won’t be the IP that EA2CW uses.

Again, can you explain where these spots came from please?

I’ve already posted in this group to say I have no issues with legitimate spots but there are many questions which need to be answered, like mine above.

Thanks,

73 Keith G6NHU
On 4 Feb 2025 at 17:32 +0000, Lorenzo IU1NSA via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>, wrote:
> As we expected,
> you want to remain in control of the network and have not provided any
> clarification regarding the initial ban.
>
> You have the absolute responsibility to contact the nodes: THE NETWORK
> IS NOT YOUR PROPERTY.
>
> Given your complete unwillingness to engage and the continuous
> accusations and threats of bans with a DICTATORIAL attitude, without
> even answering all our questions, we will continue to manage the
> situation on our own, because it is clear from your responses that
> collaboration is not possible.
>
> The reason you see spots from your nodes is because, as we have already
> stated, we have implemented our own systems to counter your aggressive
> and arbitrary bans.
>
> The fact that you continue to claim our spots are automatic and our
> users are not verified shows your closed-mindedness and fear of being
> wrong.
>
> As of today, we officially know you are not on the side of HAM operators
> but, as always, a community of nerds thinking only about their own
> little world and always wanting to be right, while clearly showing
> TECHNOLOGICAL LIMITATIONS: you continue to prove you are completely
> incapable of distinguishing a real spot from a fake one.
>
> Regarding the commercial aspect: all major web clusters (like
> DXFunCluster, DXWatch) are commercial activities, as they use AdSense
> and advertising banners to profit from millions of views thanks to the
> spots, and THEY ARE RIGHT TO DO SO, providing an important service to
> the HAM community, so don’t lecture us about it.
>
> We are not playing games, we have shown openness, and it is clear this
> is a personal attack.
>
> If you have decided to officially compromise an activity that involves
> thousands of people worldwide, YOU TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT.
>
> We will not write to anyone privately because we want a public record
> that demonstrates your attitude.
>
> For all future bans, we will share your contact with over a hundred
> thousand hunters, activators, organizers, sponsors, and operators, since
> the responsibility lies entirely with you.
>
> We have no time to waste.
>
> Lorenzo IU1NSA
>
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