[Dxspider-support] Self-spotting and de-duplication

[Dirk Koopman]

It was 2:30 hours :-(.

The problem is not a simple one to fix as the minselfspotqrg value is 
only applied to new dx spot entry on the local machine. $Spot::dupage is 
effective over all spots, whether locally generated or coming in via 
links from other nodes, so that is the value to change to taste. One way 
users have to get around it is to QSY (enough) a lot :-)

Personally, if I had my way, I would track the number of self spots / 
hour and disconnect any user exceeding that value and (maybe) even 
impose of some minutes before they were allowed to reconnect. But then I 
am not a contester nor DXer, so what do I know :-).

However, I do know a few experts (some running specially configured 
local nodes) that, I suspect, will not welcome the deluge of self spots 
that are allegedly going to appear.

Equally, this may all be a storm in a tea cup as other contest(s/ers) 
have had self spotting for some time and I am not sure that it has had 
much impact so far. Especially as I am not changing the default value of 
minselfspotqrg , each node will have to do that by startup script.

73 Dirk G1TLH

On 2025-01-28 19:12, Keith, G6NHU via Dxspider-support wrote:

> I thought the default had already been changed after the poll Dirk made 
> some time ago about this.
> 
> On 28 Jan 2025 at 17:43 +0000, Kin via Dxspider-support 
> <dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk>, wrote:
> 
>> Keith,
>> 
>> Nothing will change if the default variable is retained:
>> 
>> sh/var $Spot::minselfspotqrg
>> 
>> $Spot::minselfspotqrg = 1240000     <- 1.2 GHz
>> What Dirk is implementing is intended for cases where a sysop chooses 
>> to support autospots, but this will always be conditional on the 
>> (>)qrg value of the aforementioned variable.
>> 
>> Spider is flexible enough for us to configure it to suit our needs--or 
>> almost ;)
>> 
>> Kin EA3CV
>> 
>> De: Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces at tobit.co.uk> En nombre 
>> de Keith via Dxspider-support
>> Enviado el: martes, 28 de enero de 2025 18:23
>> Para: dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk
>> CC: Keith <keithl at lebs.org.uk>
>> Asunto: [Dxspider-support] Self-spotting and de-duplication
>> 
>> Hi Dirk
>> 
>> If we must have self-spotting please make it a setting that the node 
>> sysop can enable as required i.e. on or off.
>> 
>> It's a shame that the rules have been changed by the RSBGB HF CC and a 
>> few operators want us all to fall into line.
>> 
>> I for one will be reluctant to carry out further software updates if I 
>> can't choose which goes against all the hard work that Kin has been 
>> doing to tidy up the network.
>> 
>> Let them create their own network/software  if they are that desperate 
>> for self-spotting.
>> 
>> Best 73 and thanks for all you do with the software.
>> 
>> Keith GU6EFB
>> 
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