[Dxspider-support] Discussion: Informing Users About Registration Requirement for Spotting

[Faizul]

Yes OMs, I have already set this up and written to inform users about it.
But like you said, not many users have requested to be registered. Whether
they know about this or not, I'm not sure, but I think most of them don’t
know and will likely jump to another node that doesn’t enforce registration
to use the spot function.
I’m not sure if there are any notes in the logging applications about this.
If they don’t want to register and just want read-only access, that’s OK.
But what if they don’t know, and most probably haven’t read the MOTD?



On Thu, Mar 6, 2025 at 4:36 PM Jan via Dxspider-support <
dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk> wrote:

> You can easy check this using https://www.dxcluster.info/telnet/index.php
>
> Look for your cluster and click on it. In the next screen login with a
> fake call.
> Then you will see the message.
>
>
> Op 6-3-2025 om 09:27 schreef Jan via Dxspider-support:
>
> This message is in my motd_nor
> It will be displayed if you use set/var $main::passwdreq = 0
> But until now no one reacted by asking me to set a password.
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> #################################################################
> You are not registered to this cluster
> Please register first and use a password to login.
> You can apply for a password by contacting sysop at xxxx.xx
> IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO REGISTER YOU STILL CAN USE THE CLUSTER
> BUT YOU CANNOT SEND SPOTS.
> ################################################################
> ________________________________________________________________
>
>
> 73
> Jan
> PA4JJ
>
>
> Op 6-3-2025 om 08:59 schreef Faizul via Dxspider-support:
>
> Agreed, OM. I just want to know, is there anything wrong with requiring
> users to register with a password as a standard in DX clustering?
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2025 at 3:55 PM IZ2LSC <iz2lsc.andrea at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think that recent flooding (hundreds of spots per second) was not
>> generated by an "entity" connected as a user.
>> Here there is already a rate limiter on command a user can send in a
>> certain interval.
>> Just to set the expectation about enforcing the password policy.
>>
>> 73s
>> Andrea
>> iz2lsc
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -->
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2025 at 7:45 AM Faizul via Dxspider-support <
>> dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear DX Spider Community,
>>>
>>> I’d like to start a discussion regarding the idea of informing users to
>>> register before they can use the spot function. While security is
>>> important, it is equally crucial that users are aware of such policies to
>>> avoid confusion.
>>>
>>> If some nodes enforce set/register while others do not, users might
>>> unknowingly jump from one node to another without understanding why they
>>> are unable to send spots. To improve transparency, I propose that we add a
>>> notice about this requirement in the *Message of the Day (MOTD)* and
>>> also announce it using *ANN*. This way, users are properly informed
>>> rather than being caught off guard.
>>>
>>> We are in the AI era now, and it is easier than ever for someone to use
>>> an AI chatbot to generate a script that automatically posts spots using
>>> random callsigns. Without proper user registration, this could lead to
>>> abuse and affect the integrity of the cluster. While security measures are
>>> necessary, we must also ensure that users understand what is happening and
>>> why these policies are in place.
>>>
>>> This is just a discussion, and I’d love to hear your thoughts on the
>>> best way to approach this.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Faizul "Piju" 9M2PJU
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