[Dxspider-support] You are killing all Webclusters!

Mikel EA2CW ea2cw at gautxori.com
Fri Mar 7 00:45:31 GMT 2025


Hello dear OM Tobias,

I think you (dxheat) have been already contacted to explain how you can 
avoid this problem. This could be not the best place to talk about it, 
but the solution seems to be not too difficult to implement.

As you know if you read this list, webcluster will always have free 
access to the data, but not to send to the nodes "unverified" spots.

I was for some time logged at dx-heat.com last weekend and suffered how 
thousands of fake spots passed thru the screen to fast to be read :-/

73 de Mikel EA2CW

El 7/3/25 a las 1:21, Tobias Wellnitz via Dxspider-support escribió:
> Hi all,
> 
> my apologies for the slightly provocative email subject, but in the name 
> of all Web Cluster operators I would like to express our strong concerns 
> and disagreement about the recently rolled out "source" verification of 
> DX Spots! This setting does more harm than good. Literally all spots 
> submitted through web clusters are been dropped since the roleout of 
> $DXProt::sendverify = 2.
> Why? Because web clusters manage their users and their accounts in the 
> web stack and not in dxspider.
> 
> Just to give you an idea about the magnitude: Only my web cluster 
> (dxheat.com <http://dxheat.com>) has >30.000 registered users and has at 
> any time 800 - 1500 connected users. I know that Dxfun and Dxwatch are 
> serving even larger user bases!
> 
> Look at Andrea's table of dropped spots within a day:
> 
> +-------+----------+
> | SPOTS | NODE     |
> +-------+----------+
> |   502 | EA4RCH-5 |
> |   411 | VE7CC-1  |
> |   273 | DH1TW-2  |
> |   208 | AE5E     |
> |   138 | PY1NB-4  |
> |   104 | EA6VQ-2  |
> |   103 | DO5SSB-2 |
> [...]
> 
> Here is the mapping:
> 
> EA4RCH-5 -> dxfun.com <http://dxfun.com>
> DH1TW-2 -> dxheat.com <http://dxheat.com>
> PY1NB-4 -> dxwatch.com <http://dxwatch.com>
> EA6VQ-2 -> dxmaps.com <http://dxmaps.com>
> DO5SSB-2 -> qrzcq.com/dxtron <http://qrzcq.com/dxtron>
> 
> As you can imagine, we have put a lot of effort into building and 
> operating these web clusters. The total number of affected users, which 
> participate in the dx cluster network through our web services is larger 
> than the overall users connected via telnet!
> 
> We therefore kindly ask you to reconsider and undo the recent changes!
> 
> Let jointly keep on discussing other possibilities on how to further 
> harden together our DX Cluster network!
> 
> Thanks & 73,
> Tobias, DH1TW
> 



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