[Dxspider-support] FTx autogenerated spots

[Christopher Schlegel]

Hi all,

As a sysop, my job is to provide means and access to accurate and timely
information to the users while maintaining the health of my node and the
greater cluster. My job is not to inject my opinions on what information is
provided, even if I may dislike a mode, format, spotter, etc.

That being said, we provide tools to filter what a user sees. It is their
responsibility to learn those tools to control what they may want to see or
not see. A quick Google search yields plenty of help to do this. Users can
also ask for help, there is plenty of contact info out there with
knowledgeable individuals. Filtering accurate information for all users
because some individuals do not like something doesn't make sense to me.

Flooding, providing false info, or other abuses to the cluster is our
domain as it directly relates to the above sysop responsibilities.

The question is, do we consider auto spotting an abuse to the system or
another tool for the user?

73, Chris WI3W

On Mon, Mar 17, 2025, 11:14 Dirk Koopman via Dxspider-support <
dxspider-support at tobit.co.uk> wrote:

> In the spirit of discouraging client programs generating spots
> automatically when they work something, or for other reasons that make life
> difficult for sysops and users that don't use digital modes, I have
> introduced the following system variable: *$DXProt::remove_auto_ftx *which,
> as default (in the test branch), is currently set to 1.
>
> DX de WA2JQZ:    28180.0  DL2KBX       FT4
> DM78<>JO30                                      14 1415Z  5
> DX de G0LZX:     28074.0  W0JJG        FT8 -15dB
> 1265Hz                                     4 1415Z IO83
> DX de CP6UA:     24915.0  CP6UA        FT8 FH82jf ->
> FH82jf                                10 1414Z 10
> DX de G0LZX:     28074.0  N9AKR        FT8 -13dB from EN61
> 200Hz                            4 1414Z IO83
> DX de G0LZX:     28074.0  G0JEI        FT8 -20dB
> 520Hz                                   IO93 1412Z IO83
> DX de WA2JQZ:    28180.0  MW7TTA       FT4
> DM78<>IO73                                    IO73 1411Z  5
> DX de IZ0FYO:    28180.0  9Z4Y         FT4 JN61og ->
> FK90                                FK90 1410Z 15
> DX de IZ1PLH:    21076.0  BG0HP        FT8 -15 dB from
> NL59                                23 1410Z JN34
> DX de WA2JQZ:    28180.0  OT7X         FT4
> DM78<>JO10                                      14 1408Z  5
> DX de G0LZX:     28074.0  CE3SOC       FT8 -12dB from FF46
> 1295Hz                        FF46 1408Z IO83
> DX de YC1JEL:    28180.0  RA4M         FT4 -04dB
> 2426Hz                                  LO44 1441Z 28
> DX de GM0LIR:    24919.0  6Y7EI        FT4 +06dB
> 1585Hz                                     8 1442Z IO85
> DX de G0LZX:     28074.0  YC1JEA       FT8 -07dB from OI33 671Hz
>
> would become:
>
> DX de WA2JQZ:    28180.0  DL2KBX       FT4
> DM78<>JO30                                      14 1415Z  5
> DX de CP6UA:     24915.0  CP6UA        FT8 FH82jf ->
> FH82jf                                10 1414Z 10
> DX de WA2JQZ:    28180.0  MW7TTA       FT4
> DM78<>IO73                                    IO73 1411Z  5
> DX de IZ0FYO:    28180.0  9Z4Y         FT4 JN61og ->
> FK90                                FK90 1410Z 15
> DX de WA2JQZ:    28180.0  OT7X         FT4
> DM78<>JO10                                      14 1408Z  5
>
> It is, of course, likely that these spots that are left are auto generated
> too - but at least they provide some useful information. If it is deemed
> necessary, I can get rid of these as well, together with all the other FTx
> spots if necessary.
>
> Some people may think this is overkill, but the spot feed is filling up
> with more and more useless spots, most of which are machine generated.
> Someone has to take a stand. Now where did I put that wobbly pedestal I
> bought from the charity shop the other year?
>
> You should be made aware, the place that this is currently done, means
> that these spots are dropped at the PC11/PC61 protocol level - they won't
> be passed onward to other nodes... You may not like that... It doesn't have
> to work this way, it could be a user command. Please see the next
> paragraph.
>
> Someone was complaining that this list is too quiet. Maybe this will liven
> it up.
>
> 73 Dirk G1TLH
>
> PS I just got a bit sick of the lack of "normal" v "FTx" spots whilst
> testing the deduping code so I thought "I know, I've meaning to do this for
> ages and it's only an extra 8 lines of code and a few comments".
>
>
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