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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">What this person appears to be doing -
which is particularly annoying - is gating (possibly raw) RBN
spots onto the normal cluster network. The RBN network is separate
for a reason, If you want RBN spots they are freely available but
there an agreement (of sorts) that the two networks shall not
redistribute each other's spots. AR-C version 6 software
apparently allows local users to opt into the RBN as well, but it
doesn't distribute them. I have said that I will add a similar
system to DXSpider but I am finding it slightly challenging at the
moment,,,<br>
<br>
Dirk G1TLH<br>
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On 11/10/2019 20:49, dd5xx--- via Dxspider-support wrote:<br>
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<div>I'm sorried, I did mean to ban him from the cluster
network. As he's a CW operator he should be still visible in
RBN. But he said he's not using cluster network so there's
nothing wrong about rejecting his call on the DXcluster
network. I will forward this message to the DXspider list.
Hopefully someone will forward this to the other lists as I
am only a DXspider user. I have no clue about ARcluster
lists out there.</div>
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<div>73</div>
<div>Saki, DD5XX</div>
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<div style="margin:0 0 10px 0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag,
11. Oktober 2019 um 21:46 Uhr<br>
<b>Von:</b> "Pete Smith" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:n4zr@comcast.net"><n4zr@comcast.net></a><br>
<b>An:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:RBN-OPS@groups.io">RBN-OPS@groups.io</a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [RBN-OPS] Fw: F8DGY abusing
DXcluster ?</div>
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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I'm even
more puzzled after looking at the YouTube videos.
Here's a guy whose QRZ listing makes him out to be
a real Luddite, vehemently opposed to computers
and decoders for CW, and yet he's using a Winkey
CW decoder to demonstrate QRQ CW with an
electronic keyer. The problem, as I can see from
his QRZ, is that it needs to be in French. Maybe I
can try with Google Translate.</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">In the
meantime, it seems unfair to ban him from the RBN.</font></p>
<pre class="moz-signature">73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
at <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://reversebeacon.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><http://reversebeacon.net></a>, now
spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
For spots, please use your favorite
"retail" DX cluster.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/11/2019 3:05 PM,
DD5XX wrote:</div>
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<div>Well, after what happening under his call,
his reputation is not very good as you see
here:</div>
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<div><a href="https://dxheat.com/db/F8DGY/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://dxheat.com/db/F8DGY/</a></div>
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<div>Of course his QRZ.com lookups is very hight
because a lot of people out there are annoyed
by the actions that were taken under his
callsign. However, I don't think it's himself
causing this trouble but someone abusing his
callsign. F8DGY is a good CW operator as I see
on his uploaded YT videos here:</div>
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<div><a
href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo1R39beDWSh32vZxqFYjIA"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo1R39beDWSh32vZxqFYjIA</a></div>
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<div>no clue which of his friend (foe?) is
doing it HI HI, but --> as he said
officially on his QRZ.com page that he's not
using DXcluster at all, I would suggest to
reject/ban this callsign F8DGY completely
from RBN and DXcluster networks. Just my 2
cents</div>
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<div>73</div>
<div>Saki, DD5XX</div>
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<div style="margin: 0 0 10.0px 0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag,
11. Oktober 2019 um 19:21 Uhr<br>
<b>Von:</b> "Pete Smith" <a
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href="mailto:n4zr@comcast.net"
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<b>An:</b> <a
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href="mailto:RBN-OPS@groups.io"
onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:RBN-OPS@groups.io';
return false;" target="_blank"
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<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [RBN-OPS] Fw: F8DGY
abusing DXcluster ?</div>
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rgb(255,255,255);"><font
face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">It
appears that the basic complaint is
that F8DGY is spotting on the RBN and
then spotting the same info on a
conventional DX cluster - is that
right? I looked at his QRZ entry, and
he is certainly down on spotting, DX
chasing, etc., but he is also
extremely active - his number of
lookups on QRZ is 30 percent higher
than mine. The puzzling thing is that
according to the RBN's records, he has
been an RBN node-op for the last 5
years, and was last online with our
server, as I write this, 16 minutes
ago. How does that fit?</font>
<pre class="moz-signature">73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
at <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://reversebeacon.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><http://reversebeacon.net></a>, now
spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
For spots, please use your favorite
"retail" DX cluster.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On
10/11/2019 12:03 PM, David Robbins
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre">According to his qrz.com page he doesn't use clusters, but his call showed as a user here from ip address...
12-Sep-2019 1451Z: F8DGY Connected Telnet Server Port 7373 - 90.46.38.97:7373
Which comes back to wanadoo.fr.
As he claims not to use clusters or cw decoders I have blocked the call here....
However as I type this he reconnected as f8dgy1 from
11-Oct-2019 1556Z: F8DGY1 Connected Telnet Server Port 7373 - 92.170.169.241:7373
Which is also from wanadoo.fr.
If anyone finds either of those ip's in their log from a different callsign it might help determine who it is.
David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net'; return false;" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net</a>
web: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.k1ttt.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://wiki.k1ttt.net</a>
AR-Cluster node: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">telnet://k1ttt.net:7373</a>
-----Original Message-----
From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:RBN-OPS@groups.io" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:RBN-OPS@groups.io'; return false;" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">RBN-OPS@groups.io</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:RBN-OPS@groups.io" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:RBN-OPS@groups.io'; return false;" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:RBN-OPS@groups.io</a>] On Behalf Of DD5XX
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 14:21
To: Dirk Koopman (G1TLH); <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:RBN-OPS@groups.io" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:RBN-OPS@groups.io'; return false;" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">RBN-OPS@groups.io</a>
Subject: [RBN-OPS] Fw: F8DGY abusing DXcluster ?
sorry, forgot to add the attachment. I will send this message also to the RBN-ops reflector as it may concern it, too? Maybe the admins can see and check where the spots come from and take some action.
Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Oktober 2019 um 16:17 Uhr
Von: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dd5xx@web.de" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:dd5xx@web.de'; return false;" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">dd5xx@web.de</a>
An: "Dirk Koopman (G1TLH)" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk'; return false;" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk></a>
Betreff: F8DGY abusing DXcluster ?
Dear all,
I am reading a lot of spots in the DXcluster from spotter=F8DGY (see attached screenshot). It seems that those spots are automatically generated because I just saw my own callsign right after I called CQ, just a few seconds later. That means this "bad guy" is using an SDR to monitor the band and he spots all stations appearing on the RBN network.
I looked into the QRZ.com page of F8DGY and as it seems someone is abusing his callsign. Is there anything known on this and is it wise and does it make sense to block him because he is abusing the DXcluster?
73
Saki, DD5XX
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