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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Just posted this on N1M forum…..as they are pissing me off.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">I started this thread as I was trying to be helpful. I was one of the very early adopters of N1MM right from the start.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333"><br>
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<span style="background:white">If some would actually take a look at the DXSpider re-formatted spots one would see just how useful the data written to the comments field actually is and is not available in other cluster "products".</span><br>
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<span style="background:white">If the N1MM Development team were to actually make the small change so that comments starting with RTT were identified as RTTY spots rather than looking for the 4 characters. The change would make no difference whatsoever to others
enjoyment of the program. The author of DXspider truncated the mode to 3 characters to leave the maximum space available for other data in the spot comments field.</span><br>
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<span style="background:white">Tom....remember me? Pretty please :-)</span><br>
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<span style="background:white">73 de Rob G4UJS</span></span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Luigi Carlotto IK5ZUK via Dxspider-support<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 February 2022 17:38<br>
<b>To:</b> Rob Harrison via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Luigi Carlotto IK5ZUK <ik5zuk@tiscali.it><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Dxspider-support] [Trouble Ticket #845] DXSpider RTTY Spots<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi all,<br>
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This happens also because a very large number of spider sysops hasn't updated their nodes...<br>
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73 Luigi IK5ZUK<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Il 12/02/2022 18:31, Rob Harrison via Dxspider-support ha scritto:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">This is how useful the N1M forum users are!!!!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333">An even more common sense solution is to not use a DXSpider cluster for a RTTY contest.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333">I'm sorry, but every other cluster product reports RTTY as RTTY.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333">73,</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333">Steve, N2IC</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Dxspider-support
<a href="mailto:dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk"><dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rob Harrison via Dxspider-support<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 February 2022 14:25<br>
<b>To:</b> The DXSpider Support list <a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk">
<dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Rob Harrison <a href="mailto:g4ujs@outlook.com"><g4ujs@outlook.com></a>; Mike G3YPP
<a href="mailto:mike@g3ypp.uk"><mike@g3ypp.uk></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Dxspider-support] [Trouble Ticket #845] DXSpider RTTY Spots</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">But as I said before Mike…. The RTT spots will not feature in the Available Q’s and multipliers window in N1MM.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The latest reply on the N1MM forum is not useful!!!!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333">“You folks really should take this up with the DXSpider folks. It's not N1MM's fault that their software is misreporting RTTY spots
as RTT.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333">Meanwhile, there are other excellent clusters you can use that are not DXSpider.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333">73,</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333">Steve, N2IC”</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333">Great!!! They just don’t understand Dirks clever reformatting of the spots.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk">dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike G3YPP via Dxspider-support<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 February 2022 13:08<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Mike G3YPP <<a href="mailto:mike@g3ypp.uk">mike@g3ypp.uk</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Dxspider-support] [Trouble Ticket #845] DXSpider RTTY Spots</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There is an easy workaround. With Band/modes set to “All Modes” in the N1MM telnet window, the bandmap is populating with RTTY skimmer spots, no problem.
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<p class="MsoNormal">At the cluster I have “set/skimmer rtty” set.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">At the moment I am only seeing RTTY spots in the bandmap.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Mike<o:p></o:p></p>
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