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is your friend:-) And its sticky too.<br>
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73 Dirk G1TLH<br>
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On 12/02/2022 13:15, Joaquin . via Dxspider-support wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Human beings never cease to amaze me more and more
every day.<br>
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We want to have as much information as possible in our window,
but our window has a standard size of 80 columns for all the
fields we want to see simultaneously.<br>
Difficult solution to be able to please everyone without
modifying or losing something.<br>
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We are not very flexible and our input is the default complaint.<br>
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It is at least surprising that the N1MM developers do not keep
track of the main sources of spots, and in particular of the
most used software on the Net.<br>
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Kin EA3CV<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El sáb, 12 feb 2022 a las
13:25, Rob Harrison via Dxspider-support (<<a
href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>>)
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>My response to K3CT (one of the
N1MM Dev Team) was:-</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51);background:white">Hi
John,</span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br>
<br>
<span style="background:white">Yes the raw feed from
the RTTY Skimmer includes RTTY in the comment field
however DXSpider (the most popular cluster software)
takes the RBN feed and reformats the spots to
include better information in the comments
field...... but the mode is written as RTT not RTTY.
It would be helpful if N1MM was to recognise the
comment RTT as RTTY. Typical output from the
DXspider cluster RBN version is as below.</span><br>
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<span style="background:white">The RBN website
encourages users to connect to a cluster not the
telnet feed directly. <i>"</i></span></span><i><span
style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black;background:rgb(255,254,239)">Our
intent is that "retail" DX clusters should connect
via telnet to one these nodes, and that end-users
should connect to the "retail" nodes."</span></i><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br>
<br>
<span style="background:white">Regards</span><br>
<br>
<span style="background:white">Rob</span><br>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">DX
de DF7GB-#: 14106.3 RW4W RTT 22dB Q:5*
Z:15 1210Z</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">DX
de DO4DXA-#: 21085.6 TF1AM RTT 16dB Q:3*+
Z:8 1210Z</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">DX
de SQ5M/P-#: 7038.0 PI4CC CW 5dB Q:9+
Z:14 1210Z</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">DX
de HB9JCB-#: 7035.0 SP1AEN CW 12dB Q:9+
Z:16 1210Z</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">DX
de HG8A-#: 10115.0 PA/IZ0NGH CW 12dB Q:8*
Z:14,40 1210Z</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">DX
de LY2XW-#: 14026.4 PE1BQE CW 15dB Q:4* Z:5
1210Z</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">DX
de OE9GHV-#: 7050.4 G0FGI RTT 29dB Q:3 Z:14
1210Z</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">DX
de OE9GHV-#: 14125.5 LB2TG RTT 22dB Q:2 Z:14
1210Z</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">DX
de MM0ZBH-#: 10114.0 OM6AN/P CW 17dB Q:6+
Z:15 1210Z</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">DX
de HA1AG-#: 14044.0 PA2JWN CW 7dB Q:9*+
Z:20 1210Z</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">DX
de MM0ZBH-#: 21026.1 YO4PX CW 30dB Q:9*
Z:16,17,18 1210Z</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">DX
de DF7GB-#: 14135.3 OH1NOA RTT 29dB Q:2+
Z:15 1210Z</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">DX
de G4ZFE-#: 14113.2 RL9LR RTT 20dB Q:8*
Z:5,15,16,20 1210Z</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> Dxspider-support <<a
href="mailto:dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rob Harrison via
Dxspider-support<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 12 February 2022 12:21<br>
<b>To:</b> The DXSpider Support list <<a
href="mailto:dxspider-support@dxcluster.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">dxspider-support@dxcluster.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Rob Harrison <<a
href="mailto:g4ujs@outlook.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">g4ujs@outlook.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Dxspider-support] FW: [Trouble
Ticket #845] DXSpider RTTY Spots</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Hi All</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="color:black">See below, I reported to the N1M
development team that Spider RBN RTTY spots are not
recognised.. as RTTY due to RTT not RTTY in the
comments… I have responded to K3CT with more detail
regarding the reformatting of spots but we will see.
One smart individual said to my post:</span><span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><i><span
style="color:black">“</span></i><i><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Looks
to me as either a bug or faulty design RTTY has been
called RTTY for over 60 years…</span></i><i><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><i><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"> </span></i><i><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><i><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">However
simple enough, set cluster to reject all spot
comments except for RTT and then set N1MM to accept
everything it receives.</span></i><i><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><i><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"> </span></i><i><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><i><span
style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Alternative
use a DX cluster that does not change RTTY to RTT.”</span></i><i><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Not really useful….. Dirk it
maybe useful if you emailed N1MM</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>73 Rob G4UJS</span></p>
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lang="EN-US"> N1MM TroubleTicket <<a
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<b>Sent:</b> 12 February 2022 11:11<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
href="mailto:rob.harrison@mis-specialists.co.uk"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rob.harrison@mis-specialists.co.uk</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Trouble Ticket #845] DXSpider RTTY
Spots</span></p>
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<p><strong><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">k3ct</span></strong>
wrote:</p>
<p>We have a note in the source code that the rtty skimmer
includes “RTTY” in the comment field.</p>
<p>Could be a bug in the cluster software?</p>
<p>John, K3CT</p>
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<i><span style="font-size:7.5pt">2022/02/12 04:23:53</span></i><span
style="font-size:7.5pt">(reply)</span></p>
<p>Additional information. DXSpider reformats RBN spots,
this is what the output looks like.</p>
<p>DX de F6IIT-#: 7020.0 ON75ODE CW 31dB Q:9+ Z:15 0922Z<br>
DX de OH2BBT-#: 14090.0 9A5D RTT 49dB Q:8+ Z:20 0922Z<br>
DX de G4ZFE-#: 21101.8 UA3QJJ RTT 15dB Q:2 Z:20 0922Z<br>
DX de DE1LON-#: 21088.0 9A1A RTT 16dB Q:2+ Z:16 0922Z<br>
DX de DE1LON-#: 21116.8 R9OK RTT 24dB Q:2+ Z:20 0920Z</p>
<p>73 de Rob G4UJS</p>
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style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">G4UJS</span></strong>
<i><span style="font-size:7.5pt">2022/02/11 19:58:30</span></i><span
style="font-size:7.5pt">(report)</span></p>
<p>RTTY RBN spots from DXSpider are identified by RTT as
the first 3 characters of the comments field.</p>
<p>N1MM doesn't seem to identify these RTTY spots as RTTY
spots!!</p>
<p>Can this be adjusted please?</p>
<p>73 de Rob G4UJS</p>
<p>If you have further queries on this ticket, please
respond on-line by clicking on the link above.</p>
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