<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">OK, thank you. I’ve done that.<div><br></div><div>Stopped the node, renamed the /spider/data/users.v3j file and copied users.v3 into that folder from my old installation.</div><div><br></div><div>Restarted the node and I see that a new users.v3j file has been created in /spider/local_data.</div><div><br></div><div>No sign of a .keep file though and I don’t think I’ve ever seen a .backstop file in there.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 7 Dec 2022, at 12:08, Dirk Koopman via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">What I suggest you do is to copy your
users.v3 from your old installation. Then stop the node, remove
the users.v3j and then restart the node. It will rebuild your
users.v3j and also the .keep and .backstop files. <br>
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On 07/12/2022 12:03, Keith Maton via Dxspider-support wrote:<br>
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No this was a fresh installation using the script here: <a href="https://www.sv5fri.eu/?p=4318424" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.sv5fri.eu/?p=4318424</a>
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<div>I then set it up from scratch, didn’t copy any files over
from my old install.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Did you upgrade from an
1.55 (master branch) installation?<br>
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Arse, too late :-(
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<div>Sorry.</div>
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<div>Is this part of the important magic that happens
in the early hours of Wednesday mornings?</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">keep the .keep
file, it's there for a reason.<br>
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Ahh, our emails crossed.
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<div>Here’s my .v3j file. I’ll blitz all
the user_json files now.</div>
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<div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch:
normal; font-size: 11px; line-height:
normal; font-family: Menlo;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:
no-common-ligatures">-rwxrwxr-x 1
sysop spider 8.0M Dec 7 11:28 </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:
no-common-ligatures; color: #2fb41d"><b>users.v3j</b></span></div>
<div><span style="font-variant-ligatures:
no-common-ligatures; color: #2fb41d"><b><br>
</b></span></div>
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no-common-ligatures; color: #2fb41d"><b><br>
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<div>On 7 Dec 2022, at 11:25, Dirk
Koopman via Dxspider-support <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" moz-do-not-send="true"><dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk></a>
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struggling to understand why
your user_json files (any of
them) are more than a few tens
of MB. My reference site
GB7DJK looks like this:<br>
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<font face="monospace">-rw-rw-r--
1 sysop spider 50M Dec 7
02:30 user_json<br>
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop spider
48M Dec 7 02:30
user_json.backstop<br>
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop spider
29M Jan 24 2022
user_json.keep<br>
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop spider
50M Nov 30 02:30 user_json.o<br>
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop spider
49M Nov 23 02:30
user_json.oo<br>
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop spider
49M Nov 16 02:30
user_json.ooo<br>
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop spider
49M Nov 9 02:30
user_json.oooo<br>
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop spider
48M Nov 2 02:30
user_json.ooooo</font><br>
<br>
<font face="monospace">-rw-rw-r--
1 sysop spider 81M Dec 7
11:17 users.v3j</font><br>
<br>
And remember, this site has
been on 24hrs / day since
about 1998.<br>
<br>
WA9PIE-2's data is a bit
bigger as he has more users
and more connections:<br>
<br>
<font face="monospace">-rw-rw-r--
1 sysop sysop 64M Dec 7
02:30 user_json<br>
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop sysop
62M Dec 7 02:30
user_json.backstop<br>
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop sysop
49M Jan 12 2022
user_json.keep<br>
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop sysop
64M Nov 30 02:30 user_json.o<br>
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop sysop
63M Nov 23 02:30
user_json.oo<br>
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop sysop
63M Nov 16 02:30
user_json.ooo<br>
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop sysop
62M Nov 9 02:30
user_json.oooo<br>
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop sysop
62M Nov 2 02:30
user_json.ooooo<br>
<br>
-rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop sysop
114M Dec 7 11:19 users.v3j</font><br>
<br>
You can remove any user_json
file and you don't need to
restart. They are just backups
of users.v3j. The user_json
files are there to allow you
to restore the users.v3j file.
<br>
<br>
So how big is your users.v3j
file?<br>
<br>
Dirk G1TLH<br>
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On 07/12/2022 10:08, Keith
Maton via Dxspider-support
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Right, I stand corrected.
It’s the user_json.o file
that’s 13Gb.
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<div style="margin: 0px;
font-stretch: normal;
font-size: 11px;
line-height: normal;
font-family: Menlo;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">-rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop
spider 121704448 Dec
7 10:01 user_json</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px;
font-stretch: normal;
font-size: 11px;
line-height: normal;
font-family: Menlo;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">-rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop
spider 2838642 Dec
7 02:30 user_json.keep</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px;
font-stretch: normal;
font-size: 11px;
line-height: normal;
font-family: Menlo;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">-rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop
spider 13067960320 Dec
7 08:29 user_json.o</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px;
font-stretch: normal;
font-size: 11px;
line-height: normal;
font-family: Menlo;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">-rwxrwxr-x 1 sysop
spider 2838642 Dec
4 09:48 </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:
no-common-ligatures;
color: #2fb41d"><b>user_json.oo</b></span></div>
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<div>On 7 Dec 2022, at
09:32, Joaquin via
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<div><p>Sorry, I don't
know why I didn't
read about the
user_json file.<br>
Do an export_user,
remove the 13GB
one, and reboot.</p><p>Kin<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">El
07/12/2022 a las
10:29, Joaquin via
Dxspider-support
escribió:<br>
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<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><p>Keith,</p><p>Look to see
what you have
defined in
debug: <b>sh/debug</b>,
you also have
many traces and
you can reduce
them with <b>unset/debug</b>.<br>
Or you can limit
the number of
log files if
your FS is
small.</p><p>Kin</p><p><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">El
07/12/2022 a las
10:23, Keith
Maton via
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">I spoke too soon.
Woke up this morning to a crashed node, the Pi was still running but when I tried to connect externally to the node, I had no response, when I logged on and issued a /spider/perl/console.pl command, I just had a grey screen. I’ve checked the debug log and it fell over at 02:29:47 this morning. The last entry in the debug log is just a normal spot.
I successfully rebooted and it’s all running but I have PRTG monitoring and I just got pinged for low disk space.
When I check, my /local_data/user_json file has grown to 13Gb.
Any idea what’s caused this? Can I just stop the node, delete the file and restart? I suspect with less than 50Mb disk space, it’s going to crash soon anyway.</pre>
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