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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Did you upgrade from an 1.55 (master
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      On 07/12/2022 11:35, Keith Maton via Dxspider-support wrote:<br>
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      Arse, too late :-(
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      <div>Sorry.</div>
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      <div>Is this part of the important magic that happens in the early
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            <div>On 7 Dec 2022, at 11:32, Dirk Koopman via
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                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">keep the .keep file, it's
                  there for a reason.<br>
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                  On 07/12/2022 11:30, Keith Maton via Dxspider-support
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                  Ahh, our emails crossed. 
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                  <div>Here’s my .v3j file.  I’ll blitz all the
                    user_json files now.</div>
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                        8.0M Dec  7 11:28 </span><span
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                        <div>On 7 Dec 2022, at 11:25, Dirk Koopman via
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                            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I'm struggling
                              to understand why your user_json files
                              (any of them) are more than a few tens of
                              MB. My reference site GB7DJK looks like
                              this:<br>
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                              <font face="monospace">-rw-rw-r--  1 sysop
                                spider  50M Dec  7 02:30 user_json<br>
                                -rw-rw-r--  1 sysop spider  48M Dec  7
                                02:30 user_json.backstop<br>
                                -rw-rw-r--  1 sysop spider  29M Jan 24 
                                2022 user_json.keep<br>
                                -rw-rw-r--  1 sysop spider  50M Nov 30
                                02:30 user_json.o<br>
                                -rw-rw-r--  1 sysop spider  49M Nov 23
                                02:30 user_json.oo<br>
                                -rw-rw-r--  1 sysop spider  49M Nov 16
                                02:30 user_json.ooo<br>
                                -rw-rw-r--  1 sysop spider  49M Nov  9
                                02:30 user_json.oooo<br>
                                -rw-rw-r--  1 sysop spider  48M Nov  2
                                02:30 user_json.ooooo</font><br>
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                              <font face="monospace">-rw-rw-r--  1 sysop
                                spider  81M Dec  7 11:17 users.v3j</font><br>
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                              And remember, this site has been on 24hrs
                              / day since about 1998.<br>
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                              WA9PIE-2's data is a bit bigger as he has
                              more users and more connections:<br>
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                              <font face="monospace">-rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop
                                sysop  64M Dec  7 02:30 user_json<br>
                                -rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop sysop  62M Dec  7
                                02:30 user_json.backstop<br>
                                -rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop sysop  49M Jan 12 
                                2022 user_json.keep<br>
                                -rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop sysop  64M Nov 30
                                02:30 user_json.o<br>
                                -rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop sysop  63M Nov 23
                                02:30 user_json.oo<br>
                                -rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop sysop  63M Nov 16
                                02:30 user_json.ooo<br>
                                -rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop sysop  62M Nov  9
                                02:30 user_json.oooo<br>
                                -rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop sysop  62M Nov  2
                                02:30 user_json.ooooo<br>
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                                -rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop sysop 114M Dec  7
                                11:19 users.v3j</font><br>
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                              You can remove any user_json file and you
                              don't need to restart. They are just
                              backups of users.v3j. The user_json files
                              are there to allow you to restore the
                              users.v3j file. <br>
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                              So how big is your users.v3j file?<br>
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                              Dirk G1TLH<br>
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                              On 07/12/2022 10:08, Keith Maton via
                              Dxspider-support wrote:<br>
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                              Right, I stand corrected.  It’s the
                              user_json.o file that’s 13Gb.
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                                    10:01 user_json</span></div>
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                                    sysop spider     2838642 Dec  7
                                    02:30 user_json.keep</span></div>
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                                    sysop spider 13067960320 Dec  7
                                    08:29 user_json.o</span></div>
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                                    sysop spider     2838642 Dec  4
                                    09:48 </span><span
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                                      Joaquin via Dxspider-support <a
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                                        <p>Sorry, I don't know why I
                                          didn't read about the
                                          user_json file.<br>
                                          Do an export_user, remove the
                                          13GB one, and reboot.</p>
                                        <p>Kin<br>
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                                          07/12/2022 a las 10:29,
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                                          <p>Keith,</p>
                                          <p>Look to see what you have
                                            defined in debug: <b>sh/debug</b>,
                                            you also have many traces
                                            and you can reduce them with
                                            <b>unset/debug</b>.<br>
                                            Or you can limit the number
                                            of log files if your FS is
                                            small.</p>
                                          <p>Kin</p>
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                                            07/12/2022 a las 10:23,
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Woke up this morning to a crashed node, the Pi was still running but when I tried to connect externally to the node, I had no response, when I logged on and issued a /spider/perl/console.pl command, I just had a grey screen.  I’ve checked the debug log and it fell over at 02:29:47 this morning.  The last entry in the debug log is just a normal spot.

I successfully rebooted and it’s all running but I have PRTG monitoring and I just got pinged for low disk space.

When I check, my /local_data/user_json file has grown to 13Gb.

Any idea what’s caused this?  Can I just stop the node, delete the file and restart?  I suspect with less than 50Mb disk space, it’s going to crash soon anyway.</pre>
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