<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Good heavens Iain. I agree with you ;)<div><br></div><div>73 Ian<br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 11 Feb 2023, at 08:58, Iain Philipps via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(79, 129, 189);">Greetings.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(79, 129, 189);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(79, 129, 189);">While I do not disagree that there CAN be technology solutions which potentially help, I would (personally) resist such calls. The issue here isn’t software; it is the BEHAVIOUR of the users.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(79, 129, 189);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(79, 129, 189);">You can not narrowly focus on “fixing Spider” and expect to solve world peace; there are other networks out there (using other software) generating and routing “bad” traffic – how about fixing those first?<br><br>It is possible to ameliorate by implementing further controls, but nothing is getting better until someone fixes the root cause – the rebel users.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(79, 129, 189);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(79, 129, 189);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(79, 129, 189);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(79, 129, 189);">73 de WR3D<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(79, 129, 189);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(79, 129, 189);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"Fabián Malnero, EB1TR" via Dxspider-support<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>11 February 2023 08:48<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>The DXSpider Support list <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>"Fabián Malnero, EB1TR" <fabian@eb1tr.com>; The DXSpider Support list <dxspider-support@dxcluster.org>; Luigi Carlotto IK5ZUK <ik5zuk@tiscali.it><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Dxspider-support] Dx-World and DxCluster<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Perhaps it would be necessary to think in a more pragmatic way about not "reinventing the wheel".<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">There are applications that solve all transport needs in an extremely efficient, centralized, secure and scalable way.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Implementations like MQTT, Kafka, EMQX can be more than valid solutions, solidly proven and linked to balancing systems (HAProxy, NGinx, Traeffic, etc.) and some additional services for information verification can be an ideal solution. If all this were open source and deployed in the cloud, we would be talking about an ambitious and modern project.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">This, obviously, cannot be done if development is not centralized and we all push towards a common goal. Perhaps the decentralization of nodes is part of the problem.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Greetings.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-align: center;"><hr size="2" width="100%" noshade="" align="center" style=""></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;">Fabián Malnero, EB1TR</span></b><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><br>T:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="https://www.twitter.com/eb1tr" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;">@eb1tr</span></a><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><br>W:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="https://www.eb1tr.com/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;">EB1TR.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">_______________________________________________</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">Dxspider-support mailing list</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">Dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/dxspider-support</span></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>