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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Ciao Leo,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Before answering your proposal, let me explain something about passwords and their encryption.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>We are using a client/server protocol that sends passwords in plain text. This is certainly more insecure than encryption.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>If we were to use SHA3 512, and being aware that we are not handling $$$ and vital security information, why not use this type of encryption.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>With sha512crypt we have: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>2^13 bit gives a time of approx. 0.5 s and 640k combinations.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>2^16 bit gives a time of about 3/4 s and 5M combinations.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>a factor of 13 that allows 640,000 iterations giving a hash in 0.5 second is not a big waste of time.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The flooding method is unavoidable as it is intrinsic to the current protocol, but there may be alternatives such as star-linked trusted servers.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>But there are real experts on this list who could shed light on this point.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>As for your proposal, I totally agree, and I even proposed to Dirk some modifications to the sentences containing spots/ann/... so that this information would be consolidated locally, both for users and nodes. But the two visions are not mutually exclusive, quite the contrary.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>73 de Kin EA3CV<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b>De:</b> Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk> <b>En nombre de </b>IZ5FSA Leonardo via Dxspider-support<br><b>Enviado el:</b> martes, 21 de febrero de 2023 16:46<br><b>Para:</b> The DXSpider Support list <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk><br><b>CC:</b> IZ5FSA Leonardo <iz5fsa@gmail.com><br><b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Dxspider-support] For all sysops. Updated list. BLOCK<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Kin.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>This is a feature Dirk won't manage in DxSpider, and I think flooding passwords in the network can hide a very high risk.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>But we can use it to stop undesired nodes/users and their spots/ann/msg using a simple flag on users.v3j<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Only sysops have to manage this information, but probably it's the right way.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Do you agree this way?<br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>--</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>73 de Leo IZ5FSA</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Il giorno mar 21 feb 2023 alle ore 10:17 Kin via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>> ha scritto:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Leo,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>There is already a place where that information could be stored: user_json/users.v3j</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>It's ideal, it's on all nodes and it's updated just like the spots, by flooding.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>And it would be convenient -in my opinion- to make email a mandatory field, both for the sysop and for registered users.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>And for sysops facing the arduous task of maintaining hundreds or thousands of registered users, if the user/password were *unique* for the whole network, the initial work would be distributed among all of them if it were also part of users.v3j -encrypted, obviously-.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>What do you think?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>73 de Kin EA3CV</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>De:</b> Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank">dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk</a>> <b>En nombre de </b>IZ5FSA via Dxspider-support<br><b>Enviado el:</b> lunes, 20 de febrero de 2023 23:14<br><b>Para:</b> <a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a><br><b>CC:</b> IZ5FSA <<a href="mailto:iz5fsa@gmail.com" target="_blank">iz5fsa@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Dxspider-support] For all sysops. Updated list. BLOCK<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p>Hi Old Men<o:p></o:p></p><p>I think it's a good idea to lock nodes who don't identify users telnet access to the dxspider network with password .<o:p></o:p></p><p>I think every sysop *MUST* do a good work on its own node(s).<o:p></o:p></p><p>But we need a good system to lock/unlock undesired/desired nodes... like badip!<o:p></o:p></p><p>A list of nodes to be locked out and a list of nodes to be unlocked to update daily/weekly, just like the badip list.<o:p></o:p></p><p>A generic (but well made) list that have to be updated reading sysops mailing list is *NOT* a good way of working.<o:p></o:p></p><p>IMHO we need a nodes DB managed by sysops, a dxspider-bot who check quality of nodes (version, authentication with password, and everything needed to elevate network quality) and a simple and automatic system to lock/unlock partner nodes.<o:p></o:p></p><p>I cannot do it, I stop using Perl and and generally coding since 2009... I'm rellay rusty in it!!! Here are good guys that can do it??? Lost time in this way will not be wasted.<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><p>73 de Leo IZ5FSA<o:p></o:p></p><p> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Il 17/02/2023 13:13, Kin via Dxspider-support ha scritto:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Updated list. 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</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>IR4U-6 5455 216 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>IT9FTP-6 5455 236 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>IT9OBK-6 5455 200 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>IV3BVK-5 5455 216 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>IW1QLH-6 5455 163 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>IW2EVH-6 5455 171 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>IW8PGT-9 5455 115 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>IW9FDD-6 5455 82 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>IW9HHF-8 5455 216 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>IZ0AWG-6 5455 115 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>IZ0ORT-6 5455 216 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>IZ5IIN-6 5455 190 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>IZ5ILU-6 5455 198 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>IZ6RND-6 5455 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>IZ8DMZ-6 5455 171 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>JH1RFM-9 5455 216</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>K0PIR-2 5455 181 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>K2LS 5455 82 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>K4JW 5455 65 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>K4KYD 5455 249 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>K4KYD-2 5455 249 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>K8QIK-3 5455 80 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>KB2FAF-12 5455 249 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>KB8UVN-2 5455 73 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>KC5PQX-9 5455 249 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>KC9AOP-1 5455 229 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>KG4OOL-2 5455 249 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>KY9J-2 5455 216 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>LZ0DXC 5455 249 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>M0KGX-3 5455 217 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>MX0ONL 5455 115 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>N4DW-9 5455 166 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>N8NM 5455 249 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>N9KT-2 5455 229</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>NA7KR-3 5455 250 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>NL7S 5455 250 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>NP3N 5455 203 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>NR0Q-2 5455 217 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>NR1X-3 5455 166 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>OK0DXI 5455 52 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>OK2CQR-1 5455 250 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>ON0LLV-5 5455 249 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>ON3URE-2 5455 216 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>PD0SIM-2 5455 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>PY1TSP-1 5455 197 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>PY2ZEN-6 5455 250 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>PY4OG-2 5455 229 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>SK6AW-2 5455 166 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>SM4ONW-14 5455 218 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>SM6EAT-6 5455 249 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>SM6HOC-14 5455 218 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>SM6HOC-2 5455 218 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>SM6HOC-6 5455 218 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>SM6YOU-2 5455 82 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>SM6YOU-4 5455 166 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>SM6YOU-7 5455 82 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>SR2PUT 5455 197 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>SR4DXC 5455 198 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>SR9DDF-12 5455 200 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>SV2HRT-1 5455 115 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>SV5BYR-7 5455 217 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>UA4CC 5455 115 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>VA3MW-7 5455 249 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>VE1CFB 5455 38 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>VE2PKT-9 5455 166 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>VE3MIS-2 5455 210 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>VE3XPG-3 5455 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>VE6DXC 5455 100 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>VK3HRA-2 5455 185 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>W1DX-2 5455 82 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>W1NR 5455 250 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>W1NR-9 5455 250 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>W6RFU 5455 216 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>W6RGG-2 5455 89 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>W9AEK 5455 158 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>WT3Q 5455 136 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>WW1R-9 5455 82 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>YO2LOJ-2 5455</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>73 Kin</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>De:</b> Dxspider-support <a href="mailto:dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank"><dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk></a> <b>En nombre de </b>Kin via Dxspider-support<br><b>Enviado el:</b> viernes, 17 de febrero de 2023 10:03<br><b>Para:</b> 'The DXSpider Support list' <a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank"><dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk></a><br><b>CC:</b> Kin <a href="mailto:ea3cv@cronux.net" target="_blank"><ea3cv@cronux.net></a><br><b>Asunto:</b> [Dxspider-support] For all sysops<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p><p>I think it is time to get involved and play as a team.<o:p></o:p></p><p>After having tried to contact all the spider nodes by email, the following list (except for error, sri) have not replied or have not been located. I therefore ask you to block them.<o:p></o:p></p><p>It may seem very drastic, but we need the involvement of most of the sysops if we want to solve the problems we have.<o:p></o:p></p><p>The blocking should be done so that we can inform those sysops of the changes that have occurred and the need to update their nodes. They can then be unblocked.<o:p></o:p></p><p>For those of you who think this doesn't affect you because you're on your own, I think you're making a big mistake, and you'll realise it when you find yourself excluded from the *team*. This is a request for help to get a necessary change for our Community.<o:p></o:p></p><p>This list is not just for us to ask for help and advice, it is for us to answer those requests for help. There are sysops who only show up here when they have problems, and when you ask for their help they don't even answer you, this behaviour is not part of the ideals of our hobby. We count on you?<o:p></o:p></p><p>If you can, update your details at: <a href="https://www.dxcluster.info/telnet/submit.php%20" target="_blank"><span style='color:#0563C1'>https://www.dxcluster.info/telnet/submit.php</span></a> which will appear at <a href="https://www.dxcluster.info/telnet/index.php" target="_blank"><span style='color:#0563C1'>https://www.dxcluster.info/telnet/index.php</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p>Execute command<o:p></o:p></p><p><b><span style='font-family:Consolas'>set/lockout <node></span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p><b><span style='font-family:Consolas'>disc <node></span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p>and verify with:<o:p></o:p></p><p><b><span style='font-family:Consolas'>sh/lockout <node></span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p>Unlockout is done like this:<o:p></o:p></p><p><b><span style='font-family:Consolas'>unset/lockout <node></span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p>And the list of those affected:<o:p></o:p></p><p><b><span style='color:white'>Column1 Column2 Column3</span></b><br><span style='color:black'>9M2PJU-1 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 196 </span><br><span style='color:black'>A61BK-1</span> <span style='color:black'>5455 198 </span><br><span style='color:black'>AB2VY-12 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 200 </span><br><span style='color:black'>AB2VY-2</span> <span style='color:black'>5455 203 </span><br><span style='color:black'>AB2VY-3</span> <span style='color:black'>5455 215 </span><br><span style='color:black'>AB2VY-6</span> <span style='color:black'>5455 199 </span><br><span style='color:black'>AB2VY-7</span> <span style='color:black'>5455 210 </span><br><span style='color:black'>AB2VY-9</span> <span style='color:black'>5455 249 </span><br><span style='color:black'>AI3I-15</span> <span style='color:black'>5455 203 </span><br><span style='color:black'>CS5ARLC-1 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 197 </span><br><span style='color:black'>CT1EBQ-9 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 204 </span><br><span style='color:black'>DB0HGW-6 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 216 </span><br><span style='color:black'>DB0IUZ-6 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 249 </span><br><span style='color:black'>DB0OVN-6 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 249 </span><br><span style='color:black'>DB0PRA-9 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 115 </span><br><span style='color:black'>DB0RBS-11 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 249 </span><br><span style='color:black'>DB0TUD-6 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 100 </span><br><span style='color:black'>DB0UHI-9 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 166 </span><br><span style='color:black'>DD5XX-10 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 196 </span><br><span style='color:black'>DG2KBC-1 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 82 </span><br><span style='color:black'>DK7ET-4</span> <span style='color:black'>5455 248 </span><br><span style='color:black'>DK7ET-5</span> <span style='color:black'>5455 </span><br><span style='color:black'>DL1FLW-1 </span> <span 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style='color:black'>K4KYD-2</span> <span style='color:black'>5455 249 </span><br><span style='color:black'>K8QIK-3</span> <span style='color:black'>5455 80 </span><br><span style='color:black'>KB2FAF-12 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 249 </span><br><span style='color:black'>KB8UVN-2 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 73 </span><br><span style='color:black'>KC5PQX-9 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 249 </span><br><span style='color:black'>KC9AOP-1 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 229 </span><br><span style='color:black'>KG4OOL-2 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 249 </span><br><span style='color:black'>KY9J-2 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 216 </span><br><span style='color:black'>LZ0DXC </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 249 </span><br><span style='color:black'>M0KGX-3</span> <span style='color:black'>5455 217 </span><br><span style='color:black'>MX0ONL </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 115 </span><br><span style='color:black'>N4DW-9 </span> 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</span><br><span style='color:black'>ON3URE-2 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 216 </span><br><span style='color:black'>ON4KST-2 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 216 </span><br><span style='color:black'>PD0SIM-2 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 </span><br><span style='color:black'>PY1TSP-1 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 197 </span><br><span style='color:black'>PY2ZEN-6 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 250 </span><br><span style='color:black'>PY4OG-2</span> <span style='color:black'>5455 229 </span><br><span style='color:black'>SK6AW-2</span> <span style='color:black'>5455 166 </span><br><span style='color:black'>SM4ONW-14 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 218 </span><br><span style='color:black'>SM6EAT-6 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 249 </span><br><span style='color:black'>SM6HOC-14 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 218 </span><br><span style='color:black'>SM6HOC-2 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 218 </span><br><span 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</span> <span style='color:black'>5455 38 </span><br><span style='color:black'>VE2PKT-9 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 166 </span><br><span style='color:black'>VE3MIS-2 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 210 </span><br><span style='color:black'>VE3XPG-3 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 </span><br><span style='color:black'>VE6DXC </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 100 </span><br><span style='color:black'>VK3HRA-2 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 185 </span><br><span style='color:black'>W1DX-2 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 82 </span><br><span style='color:black'>W1NR </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 250 </span><br><span style='color:black'>W1NR-9 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 250 </span><br><span style='color:black'>W6RFU </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 216 </span><br><span style='color:black'>W6RGG-2</span> <span style='color:black'>5455 89 </span><br><span style='color:black'>W9AEK </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 158 </span><br><span style='color:black'>WT3Q </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 136 </span><br><span style='color:black'>WW1R-9 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 82 </span><br><span style='color:black'>YO2LOJ-2 </span> <span style='color:black'>5455 </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p>73 de Kin EA3CV<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Dxspider-support mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:Dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank">Dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/dxspider-support" target="_blank">https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/dxspider-support</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote></div></div><p 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