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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#4F81BD;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Quoting Ian:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#4F81BD;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>First, this is the third time, the THIRD, that I have agreed with Iain about something. I must be getting old :)<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#4F81BD;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#4F81BD;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>It’s time for a history lesson, folks </span><span style='font-family:Wingdings;color:#4F81BD;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>J</span><span style='color:#4F81BD;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#4F81BD;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#4F81BD;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Back in the mists of time, Dirk had an idea to solve the “AK1A” wars that were going on. The detail is unimportant, but my involvement from “ground zero” was certainly helpful to the cause.<br><br>Once the first version was running I set about documenting how to get it going for Windoze users; Ian (who unavoidably agrees with me these days – and I know that frightens him) did 95% of the initial documentation while I provided a few scraps to fill in some blanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#4F81BD;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#4F81BD;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Forgive us if, having been there from BEFORE the start, we happen to feel that our views are valid and shouldn’t be dismissed so easily. Mikel: You and I have been licensed radio amateurs for the same length of time. In 1987 I also had an Andorra licence (C30DLA) and was QRV from Pic Negre on VHF for the IARU Region 1 Contest (2 x 19el MET Yagi + 2 x 8874 Henry amplifier). I wrote my first lines of code 10 years before that (Algol 68 and then Fortran IV). As far as I am aware, I am also the only person other than Dirk to have actually contributed code to DX Spider.<br><br>I urge you to slow down and consider that your way is not the only way, and may not be the right way, either. Unless you do, I fear that this is all going to end very badly.<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#4F81BD;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><br>73 de WR3D<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#4F81BD;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Ian Maude <ijmaude@icloud.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> 26 February 2023 13:33<br><b>To:</b> iain.philipps@77hz.net; The DXSpider Support list <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Dxspider-support] Secure node to node connection proposal<br><b>Importance:</b> High<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>This is quite a thread but I would just like to comment about a couple of things.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>First, this is the third time, the THIRD, that I have agreed with Iain about something. I must be getting old :)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Secondly, I would like to say a mahoosive thankyou to Dirk for the work he has put in recently. Knowing Dirk, I am sure he has other additions in the pipeline. Over the past month or so, I no longer see any of the things that are reported. DXSpider is doing a magnificent job of keeping the cluster clean.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>That said, don’t stop ideas rolling in. Ideas are what got us this far. It may not be the way we collectively wish to go but they all help. I can understand the wish to tie down the cluster as much as possible but we have to remember that this is a hobby. Our major issue is not the cluster per se. It is sites like DXSummit that have been a PITA for years.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Running a DXSpider node is VERY low maintenance, and I speak as someone who has over 3700 registered users. I spend about 15 minutes each day checking over the 2 nodes that I run. That is all it takes. How good is that!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>73 Ian <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 26 Feb 2023, at 13:00, Iain Philipps via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#4F81BD'>Folks,<br><br>To me, the solution to this is both simple and obvious.<br><br>EA2CW should branch the Spider code, add his weapons-grade security to it and then see how many people want to use it.<br><br>That way, everyone gets what they want.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#4F81BD'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#4F81BD'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#4F81BD'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#4F81BD'>73 de WR3D</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>_______________________________________________<br>Dxspider-support mailing list<br></span><a href="mailto:Dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:purple'>Dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</span></a><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br></span><a href="https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/dxspider-support"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:purple'>https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/dxspider-support</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>