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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but <br>
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1) Some of the logging programs that use clusters do not know about passwords. If they do, they require the user to know about scripting.<br>
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2) Users cannot set their initial password. <br>
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3) Even if a user could set their own password, what's to stop someone from spoofing information to get started.
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I'm not going to do a security check on every one requesting to connect to my node.</div>
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Kelly<br>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk> on behalf of Kin EA3CV via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 21, 2023 3:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> The DXSpider Support list <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk>; cx2sa@cx2sa.net <cx2sa@cx2sa.net><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Kin EA3CV <ea3cv@cronux.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Dxspider-support] About data</font>
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<div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(77,81,86); font-family:Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",Arial,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; background-color:rgb(255,255,255); display:inline!important">But the password is only necessary if you want to send something to the network,
and in the case of 'humans'... few are interested. But activating the registry would not affect the vast majority, on the contrary, we would benefit everyone except the impersonators.</span></div>
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<div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(77,81,86); font-family:Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",Arial,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; background-color:rgb(255,255,255); display:inline!important">I have seen octogenarians learn the minimum -against their will- to access websites
and have information for their diplomas or dxpeditions. </span></div>
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<div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(77,81,86); font-family:Roboto,"Helvetica Neue",Arial,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; background-color:rgb(255,255,255); display:inline!important">AM didn't slow down SSB, nor did RTTY with FT8. Either you upgrade or you die. </span><br>
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<div dir="auto">Kin EA3CV</div>
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<div dir="auto" id="x_ms-outlook-mobile-signature">Enviado desde <a href="https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg" data-auth="NotApplicable">
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<div id="x_divRplyFwdMsg" style="font-size:11pt"><strong>De:</strong> Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk> en nombre de Michael Carper, Ph.D. via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk><br>
<strong>Enviado:</strong> martes, 21 de marzo de 2023 20:08<br>
<strong>Para:</strong> cx2sa@cx2sa.net <cx2sa@cx2sa.net>; The DXSpider Support list <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk><br>
<strong>CC:</strong> Michael Carper, Ph.D. <mike@wa9pie.net><br>
<strong>Asunto:</strong> Re: [Dxspider-support] About data<br>
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<div class="x_gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The people who will have problems with this are the same people whose VCRs are still flashing "12:00 AM".</div>
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<div class="x_gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Most of these people haven't seen a command prompt in a telnet session in their lives. The makers of the software that people use to connect will need to be updated to handle the password
creation workflow.</div>
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<div class="x_gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Mike, WA9PIE</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 1:59 PM CX2SA - Jose Ma Gonzalez via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" data-auth="NotApplicable">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
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With all the spam problems that have occurred, are there still nodes without a username/password?<br>
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mmmm... very very bad !!<br>
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Registration with username and password is ELEMENTARY and does not require any<br>
effort.<br>
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73, Jose<br>
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De: Dxspider-support [mailto:<a href="mailto:dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk" data-auth="NotApplicable">dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk</a>] En nombre de Kin via Dxspider-support<br>
Enviado el: martes, 21 de marzo de 2023 15:30<br>
Para: 'The DXSpider Support list'<br>
CC: Kin<br>
Asunto: [Dxspider-support] About data<br>
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Hi all,<br>
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From a list of 474 dxspider nodes, accessing each node I have obtained this data:<br>
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252 Active<br>
3 Unknown version<br>
219 Inactive or with login error<br>
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175 are on 1.57 Mojo<br>
77 are on 1.55 Master<br>
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182 have no Password Registration: 116 Mojo + 66 Master<br>
70 have Password Registration enabled: 59 Mojo + 11 Master<br>
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About 30% of DXSpider nodes have taken the commitment to stop spam😊 Congratulations to them.<br>
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I estimate that there are about 70 nodes missing which I don't have connection data for, but which I can see as a result:<br>
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196 nodes in Mojo<br>
127 nodes in Master<br>
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There are still too many nodes with ARCAIC versions and too many that don't apply direct control over submissions.<br>
Let's stop spam together.<br>
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Kin EA3CV<br>
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