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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Jose<br>
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I am sorry you were inconvenienced, it is possible I got the wrong
end of the stick and I thought I was being explicitly asked to
deny this IP. Various sysops have, apparently, made you a
badspotter as well. Your ip address will be out of the badip list
in the next cycle after 15mins past the hour.<br>
<br>
IANADxer so, as the central point for more (and soon more)
centralised information to be distributed to other nodes, I have
no real opinion on what is good or bad spotting etiquette. I
simply do what I am asked. <br>
<br>
What I *would* observe, however, is that there is a great deal of
complaining about clearly automated FTx spots on the (as these
people would see it) analogue spotting "channel". Amongst the
arguments they have are: "they are filling up the (ed: spotting)
channel", "using spots as an automated log", "it's self spotting",
"there are too many of these things", "FTx users can use their RBN
(ed: other services are available)", "we don't understand them",
"meaningless to us" etc etc etc.<br>
<br>
And this is just a small set of the complaints I see on other
forums. I think the argument that has most merit is that no other
mode routinely "auto spots" and worse, it has come to many FTx
spotters attention that nodes (not *just* DXSpider) are filtering
them out and regular FTx spotters are now actively (and
deliberately) changing their info texts to *get around* the
filters. <br>
<br>
This sort of thing has happened in the past, for example ROS,
which used the same auto spotting idea as whichever program is
doing this. There was, to be fair, a lot more of it. But I had
words and asked them to use a DXSpider chat channel (not
surprisingly called 'ROS') which is broadcast to all nodes, but is
only seen by those users that chose to subscribe to that channel
(join/leave ros). It is still active today (sh/chat ros) and goes
on in the background, not causing anyone a problem. <br>
<br>
While I am on about chat channels: all DXSpider nodes are
automatically subscribed to chat channel: #9000 and a 'chat #9000
Don't Panic!" will go out to all logged in sysops (IIRC by email
as well, but I'll have to check on Monday). This has fallen into
disuse but, in these sometimes difficult times, this mechanism
could be a useful way to communicate immediate issues requiring
action. <br>
<br>
Dirk G1TLH<br>
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On 01/04/2023 13:25, CX2SA - Jose Ma Gonzalez wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hello Dirk.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">In the badip_global file
of today appears
201.217.129.149<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">This is my IP and it
correspond to a
secondary server backup: s2.cx2sa.net<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I have from
201.217.129.146 to
201.217.129.150<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">CX2SA-6 DXSpider is my
test node and have
this IP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Why?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Because I send spots of
my QSO’s in
FT8?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">FT8 is a valid mode and
DXSpider has other mechanism
for block and spotter.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Please remove this list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Many thanks, Jose<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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