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    <font face="monospace">My debug file is chock full of sh/headings.
      Each results in a lengthy response that is unlikely used. An
      alternative should be agreed upon. Let's not condemn the author of
      clock. It's a very useful application and does provide spots for
      the users. Let's work with him to see what we can do to make it
      work within acceptable limits.<br>
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      73, John W1AN<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14-Jan-24 19:00, Peter via
      Dxspider-support wrote:<br>
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      Hi Steve<br>
      <br>
      Let us know how to take down this s**t piece  of software.<br>
      The command sh/head is only traceable in the debug file as I know.<br>
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      @Dirk<br>
      Is there a way to create/make a log file that contains  this type
      of commands on a month bases? (like log/01.dat)<br>
      Then we can create a fail2ban filter for it (and other cmds).<br>
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      Peter<br>
      PC2A<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 14-1-2024 om 18:07 schreef John
        Spigel via Dxspider-support:<br>
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        Steve, I have a couple of ideas I may try to discourage the
        abuse. I'll post results if they work.<br>
        And another solution may be to encourage the author of hamclock
        to start his own node just for hamclock. He could then add all
        the features he wants.<br>
        73, John W1AN<br>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14-Jan-24 16:53, Stephen Carroll
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            <div>John,</div>
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            <div dir="auto">This issue was discussed about a year ago,
              search the listserver archives. A few of us were actually
              in contact with the software author at that time, but I
              don't have his email address anymore. In the end, not much
              changed after numerous emails back and forth. Again, good
              luck!</div>
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            <div dir="auto">73, Steve - AA4U</div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 14, 2024,
              10:29 AM John Spigel via Dxspider-support <<a
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              <div> Steve, It depends on what data hamclock is seeking. 
                Why all the show/heading requests by every hamclock user
                every second? It makes little sense. Does someone know
                the originator of hamclock who may be able to offer a
                solution?  For dxspider could there be an automatic
                rejection of some or all commands by those hiding behind
                set/nohere? Before I start the pain of rejecting
                multiple ips, I'll wait patiently to see if another
                solution is offered. .<br>
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                73, John W1AN<br>
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                <div>On 14-Jan-24 16:10, Stephen Carroll wrote:<br>
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                    <div>There's no getting around the fact that
                      Hamclock is a bandwidth/resource hog! The software
                      makes rigorous data queries in order to populate
                      the map, etc. Without the queries there would be
                      no data!</div>
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                    <div dir="auto">I have banned users from utilizing
                      this software on my node. They are free to go
                      elsewhere, but my 100mb internet connection gets
                      bogged down (especially during contests). In the
                      beginning I had 10 hamclock users, before I
                      realized what was going on. I've configured my
                      router to reject their IP addresses, this prevents
                      them from even reaching the DXSpider computer.</div>
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                    <div dir="auto">Perhaps some high bandwidth nodes
                      can handle this constant barrage of data requests,
                      but mine can't. Good luck!</div>
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                    <div dir="auto">73, Steve - AA4U</div>
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                      S22+ on Verizon 5G Network</div>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 14,
                      2024, 9:53 AM John Spigel via Dxspider-support
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                      number of abusive show/heading commands has
                      exploded in the last few <br>
                      months, stealing much bandwidth especially on
                      contest weekends. The <br>
                      software causing is probably known to many on this
                      list. The users are <br>
                      setting themselves as not/here (call). Can someone
                      offer a solution <br>
                      other than banning the abusers? The software could
                      probably use a change <br>
                      as it seems the purpose is akin to a ping to see
                      if the node is still <br>
                      active. Maybe an alternative could be offered. I
                      think this was <br>
                      mentioned in the past. Consider not allowing
                      sh/headings for those who <br>
                      have set as not/here? Or ?<br>
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                      73, John W1AN<br>
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