<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Yes John, that’s almost certainly HamClock.<div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div>When the version I’m testing comes out of beta and people update, these won’t happen.</div><div><br></div><div>73 Keith</div><div><br></div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 17 Jan 2024, at 15:27, John Spigel via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div>
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Below is a debug moment snapshot today. Is this from hamclock? Or is
there another app that is automatically running the sh/h command?
Most or all are requested by (no/here) calls.<br>
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John W1AN <br>
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1705503732^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading DL1NCH' by AK4SE ip:
73.137.119.160 0mS<br>
1705503732^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading DL1NCH' by KF4O ip:
107.15.23.184 0mS<br>
1705503732^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading DL1NCH' by WB2YZG ip:
104.229.102.189 0mS<br>
1705503732^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading DL1NCH' by K0JEB ip:
76.152.226.39 0mS<br>
1705503732^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading IR1WWA' by WQ3P ip:
50.107.174.12 0mS<br>
1705503732^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading DL1NCH' by KI5WMU ip:
128.92.197.163 0mS<br>
1705503732^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading IR1WWA' by AK4SE ip:
73.137.119.160 0mS<br>
1705503732^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading DL1NCH' by KE8NKN ip:
75.100.181.126 0mS<br>
1705503732^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading DL1NCH' by AA9MQ ip:
134.215.223.14 0mS<br>
1705503732^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading IR1WWA' by K0JEB ip:
76.152.226.39 0mS<br>
1705503732^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading DL1NCH' by XE1BRX ip:
189.187.142.147 0mS<br>
1705503732^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading DL1NCH' by W1AFP ip:
72.74.75.204 0mS<br>
1705503732^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading IR1WWA' by WB2YZG ip:
104.229.102.189 0mS<br>
1705503732^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading DL1NCH' by 2E0SVJ ip:
195.140.213.238 0mS<br>
1705503732^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading DL1NCH' by WA4YYM ip:
23.127.45.85 0mS<br>
1705503732^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading DL1NCH' by K7AKT ip:
216.7.125.62 0mS<br>
1705503732^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading IR1WWA' by KI5WMU ip:
128.92.197.163 0mS<br>
1705503732^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading IR1WWA' by W1AFP ip:
72.74.75.204 0mS<br>
1705503732^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading DL1NCH' by 2E0NQC ip:
78.150.16.216 0mS<br>
1705503732^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading DL1NCH' by NQ0S ip:
8.41.23.19 1mS<br>
1705503732^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading DL1NCH' by CT2JUF ip:
37.189.247.93 0mS<br>
1705503732^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading IR1WWA' by KE8NKN ip:
75.100.181.126 0mS<br>
1705503732^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading IR1WWA' by AA9MQ ip:
134.215.223.14 1mS<br>
1705503732^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading IR1WWA' by WA4YYM ip:
23.127.45.85 0mS<br>
1705503732^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading IR1WWA' by XE1BRX ip:
189.187.142.147 0mS<br>
1705503732^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading IR1WWA' by 2E0SVJ ip:
195.140.213.238 0mS<br>
1705503733^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading IR1WWA' by K7AKT ip:
216.7.125.62 0mS<br>
1705503733^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading IR1WWA' by 2E0NQC ip:
78.150.16.216 0mS<br>
1705503733^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading IR1WWA' by CT2JUF ip:
37.189.247.93 0mS<br>
1705503733^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading IR1WWA' by NQ0S ip:
8.41.23.19 0mS<br>
1705503733^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading DL1NCH' by W9LCQ-1 ip:
73.32.67.110 0mS<br>
1705503733^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading DL1NCH' by N4AC ip:
98.62.103.65 0mS<br>
1705503733^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading IR1WWA' by N4AC ip:
98.62.103.65 0mS<br>
1705503733^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading IR1WWA' by KF4O ip:
107.15.23.184 1mS<br>
1705503733^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading IR1WWA' by W9LCQ-1 ip:
73.32.67.110 0mS<br>
1705503733^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading DL1NCH' by W6DPM ip:
76.170.132.90 0mS<br>
1705503733^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading IR1WWA' by W6DPM ip:
76.170.132.90 0mS<br>
1705503733^(progress) CMD: 'show/heading DL1NCH' by VK3ZAI ip:
210.50.33.88 1mS<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17-Jan-24 14:39, Dirk Koopman via
Dxspider-support wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Keith<br>
<br>
Old age is creeping up (at least I think it's just "creeping"),
I remembered something about this after I posted. Thank for your
efforts in sorting this (and other annoyances) out with
HamClock. It's much appreciated. <br>
<br>
For the absence of any doubt. As standard, anyone can connect up
to three (different) dxspider nodes in a cluster with the same
callsign. On the fourth+ connection, again as standard, that
callsign will be disconnected with an error message. <br>
<br>
The (default) limit of three simultaneous connections to
different nodes was arrived at many years ago through experiment
and debate. In those days, there was still some justification
for multiple connections as the internet was slower and (in
places) a bit unreliable. Those days are long gone and that is
no longer the case. As far as I am concerned all multiple
connections achieve is an increase the duplicate traffic flowing
from nodes (which client programs don't always deduplicate
properly). No one has demonstrated any advantage to having more
than one connection in terms of speed of arrival of spots -
which I presume is the point of having more. Two connections
provide resilience in connection to the wider cluster (useful in
contests) but not much else. <br>
<br>
The kicker is that all major nodes already have have many
interconnections to other nodes. They manage this diversity so
that a client user - does - not - need - to - roll their own
"solution". If a user thinks that they can get a better result
by doing something themselves then I would a) like them to try
one the major nodes in the UK, Spain, Germany and other European
countries first and then b) if they can <u>demonstrate</u> an
advantage of more than a second connecting to another node, then
communicate with your local node and ask *them* to connect to
that node rather than doing it yourself. This will then help
everyone.<br>
<br>
My 2p worth...<br>
<br>
Dirk G1TLH<br>
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On 17/01/2024 13:52, du3tw via Dxspider-support wrote:<br>
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Well done Keith
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<div>Such a refreshing change from toxic and un-constructive
posts with sadly abound these days … </div>
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<div>On 17 Jan 2024, at 21:49, Keith Maton via
Dxspider-support <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" moz-do-not-send="true"><dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk></a>
wrote:</div>
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<div style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Hi
Dirk,
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<div>No, nothing wrong with it, it works perfectly but
if you read back through some messages to this
reflector, there have been complaints about HamClock
sending a show/heading after every spot so it can
use the response to plot the spotted callsign on a
map. This change stops that and the calculation is
done locally on the HamClock.</div>
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<div>Now HamClock will be very quiet, will only issue
a handful of commands on connect and that’s about
it.</div>
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<div>73 Keith</div>
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Dxspider-support <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" moz-do-not-send="true"><dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk></a>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Is there
something wrong with the show/heading
command?<br>
<br>
On 17/01/2024 08:24, Keith Maton via
Dxspider-support wrote:<br>
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As previously mentioned, I’ve been in
regular contact with the author of
HamClock and following feedback, I am beta
testing a version of HamClock which no
longer uses the show/heading command for
locating stations and plotting them on the
map. It now does all the calculations
locally.
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<div>When a HamClock initially connects to
a node, it sends the following:</div>
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<div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">1705478550^(DXCommand)
</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #b42419"><b>G6NHU-10</b></span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"> connected from
192.168.1.137 cols 80</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;">1705478550^(progress)
CMD: 'set/qra JO01ou' by </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: rgb(180, 36, 25);"><b>G6NHU-10</b></span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures;"> ip: 192.168.1.137
1mS</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">1705478550^(progress)
CMD: 'set/location 51 50 N 1 13 E'
by </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #b42419"><b>G6NHU-10</b></span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"> ip: 192.168.1.137
1mS</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">1705478550^(progress)
CMD: 'unset/here ' by </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #b42419"><b>G6NHU-10</b></span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"> ip: 192.168.1.137
0mS</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">And that’s it. The
only other interaction it will have
with the node is that if there is no
traffic passed in a ten minute period,
it does this:</span></div>
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</span></div>
<div><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">
<div style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">1705466270^(progress)
CMD: '</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #b42419"><b>ping</b></span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"> ' by G6NHU-10 ip:
192.168.1.137 0mS</span></div>
<div><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><br>
</span></div>
<div>Once this has gone through
testing and rolls out, it will rely
on the HamClock owners to update
their software. Elwood feels that
the half-life for HamClock updates
is a couple of months so it will
take a while for the changes to
pickle through but we should start
seeing a decrease in show/heading
commands straight away and that
decrease will continue as more
people update.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Hopefully this will satisfy
everyone.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>73 Keith G6NHU</div>
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