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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">You are making one big assumption that everyone runs DXSpider can configure PC92 on/off. I run CC Cluster, which is a more or less black box with very little configuration options. I would guess that other node ops either can't or don't know how to change the setting.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Is there a published protocol with full syntax for all cluster packet types?</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Rudy N2WQ</div><div><br></div>
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On Wednesday, September 4, 2024 at 01:39:19 AM EDT, Kin EA3CV via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289"><div><div>Hi, </div><div id="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289" class="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289"><br clear="none"></div><div id="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289mail-editor-reference-message-container">The PC92 sentences integrate the network functions for the nodes.<div id="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289" class="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289">They inform everyone of changes that occur within and between nodes. The UP/DOWN of nodes, the table of neighbor nodes, the users who establish a session or disconnect, the versions of the software used, ... </div><div id="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289" class="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289">These sentences are not intended for users, but they are necessary. In short, they provide information about the state of the Network, allowing the node software to make some decisions.</div><div id="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289" class="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289">I think all nodes should use them. If they have it disabled, it can be enabled.</div><div id="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289" class="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289">Just run </div><div id="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289" class="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289">sh/ver all</div><div id="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289" class="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289">and it will show a list with the PC92 on/off.<br clear="none"></div><div id="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289" class="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289"><br clear="none"></div><div id="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289" class="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289">Regards, </div><div id="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289" class="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289"><br clear="none"></div><div id="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289" class="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289">Kin EA3CV</div><div id="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289" class="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289"><br clear="none"></div></div><div><hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%;"><div id="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289yqt60339" class="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289yqt5067385925"><div id="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289divRplyFwdMsg" style="font-size:11pt;"><strong>De:</strong> Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk> en nombre de Faizul via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk><br clear="none"><strong>Enviado:</strong> martes, septiembre 3, 2024 8:07:55 p. m.<br clear="none"><strong>Para:</strong> iz2lsc.andrea@gmail.com <iz2lsc.andrea@gmail.com>; The DXSpider Support list <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk><br clear="none"><strong>CC:</strong> Faizul <9m2pju@hamradio.my><br clear="none"><strong>Asunto:</strong> Re: [Dxspider-support] To be or not to be one of the PC9X<br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:trebuchet ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;" class="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289gmail_default">Can someone enlighten me what PC92 is all about ?</div><div style="font-family:trebuchet ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;" class="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289gmail_default"><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-family:trebuchet ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;" class="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289gmail_default"><br clear="none"></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 1:31 AM IZ2LSC via Dxspider-support <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Hi Kin, <div>in my case, IZ2LSC-97 is an internal "pseudo" node connected to the real node IZ2LSC-99.</div><div>It should remain internal and not advertised/visible to the rest of the network and is not possible to connect to it from the internet. </div><div>It doesn't exchange PC9X messages.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Andrea</div><div>iz2lsc</div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289gmail_signature">--></div></div><br clear="none"></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289gmail_attr">Il giorno lun 2 set 2024 alle ore 19:15 Kin via Dxspider-support <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>> ha scritto:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="ydp9e36f5fbyiv4189711289gmail_quote">Hi,<br clear="none">
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I'm analyzing myself with the sentences used by our nodes and the traffic<br clear="none">
generated, specifically with PC92.<br clear="none">
Of the 416 nodes I see in my console: 93 have PC9X OFF, including some<br clear="none">
DXSpider (DK7ET-5, JG1YGH-15, NR1X-3)<br clear="none">
Of these 93, there are quite a few that do not send a single PC92 sentence,<br clear="none">
but they seem to be nodes, very strange, no?<br clear="none">
Some possibly because their software does not implement it (bad in 2024) and<br clear="none">
others because they have disabled it (worse).<br clear="none">
The question that arises for me is: If most nodes do not use a common<br clear="none">
protocol (partial perhaps), do we have the guarantee that the Network will<br clear="none">
not fail?<br clear="none">
Why do sysops disable the use of PC9X?<br clear="none">
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9M2PJU-1 5401 No No<br clear="none">
AE5E 5401 No No<br clear="none">
AI9T 5000 No Yes<br clear="none">
DB0ERF 5401 No Yes<br clear="none">
DF7GB-2 5000 No Yes<br clear="none">
DK7ET-5 5455 No Yes<br clear="none">
DL2ND-10 5401 No No<br clear="none">
DL2ND-8 5000 No Yes<br clear="none">
DL9GTB-1 5000 No Yes<br clear="none">
DL9GTB-2 5401 No No<br clear="none">
DU3TW-1 5401 No No<br clear="none">
EA1DX 5401 No No<br clear="none">
EA2CW-1 5401 No No<br clear="none">
EA8URL-5 5401 No No<br clear="none">
F4GVE 5401 No No<br clear="none">
GB7DXG 5401 No No<br clear="none">
GB7DXS 5401 No No<br clear="none">
HA2NA-1 5401 No No<br clear="none">
HA8TKS-9 5401 No No<br clear="none">
HI8S 5401 No No<br clear="none">
IK2XDE-6 5401 No No<br clear="none">
IW0QNL-6 5499 No Yes<br clear="none">
IW1QLH-2 5401 No No<br clear="none">
IZ2LSC-97 5401 No No<br clear="none">
JA2YYF 5401 No No<br clear="none">
JA2YYF-9 5910 No Yes<br clear="none">
JA4PXC-11 5431 No Yes<br clear="none">
JA4PXC-7 5401 No No<br clear="none">
JA4PXC-9 5401 No No<br clear="none">
JG1VGX-7 5401 No No<br clear="none">
JG1VGX-8 5401 No No<br clear="none">
JG1YGH-15 5457 No Yes<br clear="none">
K0XM-5 5401 No No<br clear="none">
K1EU 5000 No Yes<br clear="none">
K1TTT 5910 No Yes<br clear="none">
K1TTT-1 5401 No No<br clear="none">
K2CAN 5401 No No<br clear="none">
K3LR 5401 No No<br clear="none">
K4HNT-1 5401 No Yes<br clear="none">
K5DX 5401 No No<br clear="none">
K9AJ 5401 No No<br clear="none">
K9LC 5401 No No<br clear="none">
KK6JA-7 5401 No No<br clear="none">
KM3T-5 5000 No Yes<br clear="none">
KN4F 5401 No No<br clear="none">
KQ8M 5401 No No<br clear="none">
LA3C-6 5401 No No<br clear="none">
LA7Q-6 5000 No Yes<br clear="none">
LY4I 5401 No No<br clear="none">
LZ7A 5401 No No<br clear="none">
M0IPU-8 5000 No Yes<br clear="none">
N2WQ-1 3397 No Yes<br clear="none">
N2YO-4 5401 No No<br clear="none">
N4ZKF-1 5401 No No<br clear="none">
NC7J 5401 No No<br clear="none">
NC7J-7 5401 No No<br clear="none">
NG9R 5000 No Yes<br clear="none">
NR1X-3 5455 No Yes<br clear="none">
NX9G-6 5401 No No<br clear="none">
OK2CQR-5 5401 No No<br clear="none">
ON0DXK-5 5401 No No<br clear="none">
ON0LLV-6 5401 No No<br clear="none">
ON4KST 5000 No Yes<br clear="none">
OP0P 5000 No Yes<br clear="none">
PY1TSB-1 5401 No No<br clear="none">
PY5JO-1 5401 No No<br clear="none">
S50ARX 5000 No Yes<br clear="none">
SK1MMR 5401 No No<br clear="none">
SM7IUN 5401 No No<br clear="none">
SM7IUN-2 5401 No No<br clear="none">
SV5FRI 5401 No No<br clear="none">
US4MFB-15 5000 No Yes<br clear="none">
UT1U 5401 No No<br clear="none">
VA3UG 5401 No Yes<br clear="none">
VA6AAA-1 5401 No No<br clear="none">
VE7CC 5000 No Yes<br clear="none">
VK5GR 5401 No Yes<br clear="none">
W3GQ 5401 No No<br clear="none">
W3LPL 5499 No Yes<br clear="none">
W3LPL-1 5401 No No<br clear="none">
W3RGA-1 5401 No No<br clear="none">
W4DXA 5401 No No<br clear="none">
W4MYA 5401 No No<br clear="none">
W4NJA 5401 No No<br clear="none">
W7JD-1 5401 No No<br clear="none">
W9ODD-1 5401 No No<br clear="none">
W9PA-4 5401 No No<br clear="none">
W9YB 5499 No Yes<br clear="none">
WB4QOJ-8 5401 No No<br clear="none">
WC2L 5401 No No<br clear="none">
WD1L 5401 No No<br clear="none">
WD4IXD 5000 No Yes<br clear="none">
ZS2EZ-3 5401 No No<br clear="none">
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Regards,<br clear="none">
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Kin EA3CV<br clear="none">
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