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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Faizul,<br><br>You appear to be trying to fix something that is not (never has been) broken …<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><br>73 de WR3D<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Faizul via Dxspider-support<br><b>Sent:</b> 15 October 2024 14:17<br><b>To:</b> Kin <ea3cv@cronux.net><br><b>Cc:</b> Faizul <9m2pju@hamradio.my>; The DXSpider Support list <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Dxspider-support] Load Balancing<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>Understood. <br>But if we have some kind of load balance, maybe user can just connect to let's say <a href="https://sps6s.mjt.lu/lnk/AMYAAFLyKfQAAAAAAAAAA8NI7WwAAYKHzrAAAAAAAChsmwBnDmtc2irv7jXJRtKinox9gTF9MwAlgMw/1/_5UOklqvTc79XvvB4YjELg/aHR0cDovL2FzaWEuZHhzcGlkZXIubmV0">asia.dxspider.net</a> or <a href="https://sps6s.mjt.lu/lnk/AMYAAFLyKfQAAAAAAAAAA8NI7WwAAYKHzrAAAAAAAChsmwBnDmtc2irv7jXJRtKinox9gTF9MwAlgMw/2/qXea8f-nPHXXqbV2q6KfUA/aHR0cDovL2V1cm9wZS5keHNwaWRlci5uZXQ">europe.dxspider.net</a><o:p></o:p></p><p>Nevermind.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Oct 15, 2024, 6:18 PM Kin <<a href="mailto:ea3cv@cronux.net">ea3cv@cronux.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m-432331458199044940spelle><span lang=ES style='font-size:12.0pt'>It</span></span><span lang=ES style='font-size:12.0pt'> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>is</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>exactly</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>the</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>same</span>, <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>Faizul</span>. The container <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>is</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>nothing</span> more <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>than</span> a machine <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>from</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>the</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>point</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>of</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>view</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>of</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>the</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>node's</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>functionality</span>.</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m-432331458199044940spelle><span lang=ES style='font-size:12.0pt'>If</span></span><span lang=ES style='font-size:12.0pt'> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>your</span> host/container has <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>good</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>network</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>access</span>, <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>it</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>doesn't</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>matter</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>where</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>it</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>is</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>located</span> (<span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>the</span> actual <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>latency</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>is</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>laughable</span>, at <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>least</span> in <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>my</span> case). <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>It</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>makes</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>exactly</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>the</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>same</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>to</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>connect</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>to</span> a <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>node</span> in <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>your</span> country <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>or</span> in <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>another</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>continent</span>, <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>the</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>difference</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>is</span> in <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>the</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>added</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>value</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>that</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>your</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>node</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>provides</span>: <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>availability</span>, <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>stability</span>, <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>throughput</span>, <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>updates</span>, <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>maintenance</span>, ...</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m-432331458199044940spelle><span lang=ES style='font-size:12.0pt'>This</span></span><span lang=ES style='font-size:12.0pt'> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>is</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>my</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>humble</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>opinion</span>.</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m-432331458199044940spelle><span lang=ES style='font-size:12.0pt'>Regards</span></span><span lang=ES style='font-size:12.0pt'>,</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-size:12.0pt'>Kin EA3CV</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-size:12.0pt'>PS</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m-432331458199044940spelle><span lang=ES style='font-size:12.0pt'>But</span></span><span lang=ES style='font-size:12.0pt'> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>the</span> use <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>of</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>containers</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>is</span> a <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>great</span> <span class=m-432331458199044940spelle>advantage</span>.</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=ES>De:</span></b><span lang=ES> Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank">dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk</a>> <b>En nombre de </b>Faizul via Dxspider-support<br><b>Enviado el:</b> martes, 15 de octubre de 2024 11:59<br><b>Para:</b> The DXSpider Support list <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>><br><b>CC:</b> Faizul <<a href="mailto:9m2pju@hamradio.my" target="_blank">9m2pju@hamradio.my</a>><br><b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Dxspider-support] Load Balancing<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>Using a container on the same server is a solution to run 2 nodes on 1 server.</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>I am thinking about regional load balance. For example, users from a country can connect to the nearest node to them.</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES>On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 1:29 PM Kin EA3CV via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES>It's not that simple, Tim.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES>There should never be more than one node connected to the same callsign.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES>Another problem is that the nodes do not share the user_json DB.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES>Additionally, there are settings such as filters that should be shared.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES>And partners cannot be shared either, although this has an easy solution.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES>Using HA Proxy would be a great solution if you didn't have to modify the spider code. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES>73 de  Kin EA3CV<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="m_-432331458199044940m_-5961983413447338085mail-editor-reference-message-container"><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=ES><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></span></div><div id="m_-432331458199044940m_-5961983413447338085divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><strong><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>De:</span></strong><span lang=ES> Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank">dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk</a>> en nombre de Tim Tuck via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Enviado:</span></strong> lunes, octubre 14, 2024 10:48:19 p. m.<br><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Para:</span></strong> Faizul via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>CC:</span></strong> Tim Tuck <<a href="mailto:vk2xax@skybase.net" target="_blank">vk2xax@skybase.net</a>><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Asunto:</span></strong> Re: [Dxspider-support] Load Balancing<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=ES><br>Hi Faizul,<br><br>Given the interconnected nature of the dxcluster all spots appear <br>everywhere almost instantaneously so you could just connect to another <br>node if your favourite node went down and I don't think any node is <br>suffering for excess load since the software is reasonably lightweight.<br><br>You could set up two nodes locally with DNS round robin load balancing <br>between them or you could put a HA-proxy in front of them to do the load <br>balancing. Both methodologies expand horizontally to many nodes. This <br>can give you both load sharing and redundancy should you require it.<br><br>There's really no need to have the software itself do that function.<br><br>cheers<br><br>Tim<br><br>On 15/10/24 07:24, Faizul via Dxspider-support wrote:<br>> Hello OM.<br>><br>> Is there any future plan to do load balancing for dx spider network?<br>><br>-- <br>VK2XAX : QF68KM : ITU59 : CQ30 : ORARC : WIA<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Dxspider-support mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank">Dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a><br><a href="https://sps6s.mjt.lu/lnk/AXMAAFIRRJkAAAAAAAAAA8NI7WwAAYKHzrAAAAAAAChsmwBnDj0a4fmry9wQQ-2bSP-V4zG-LwAlgMw/1/wZ_ENZ_50816_nwjFH6Diw/aHR0cHM6Ly9tYWlsbWFuLnRvYml0LmNvLnVrL21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8vZHhzcGlkZXItc3VwcG9ydA" target="_blank">https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/dxspider-support</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES>_______________________________________________<br>Dxspider-support mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank">Dxspider-support@tobit.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