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<div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: medium">Updated to 560. Note, all these different nodes I’m checking are node partners.</span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: 16px">Logged on to my cluster via telnet as G0PKT and sent a self spot.</span><span style="font-size: 16px"><br /></span><span style="font-size: 16px"><br /></span><strong style="font-family:Arial">dx 7074 g0pkt test, please ignore</strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial"> DX de G0PKT: 7074.0 G0PKT test, please ignore JO01 1919Z JO01</strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial"> G0PKT de G6NHU-2 30-Jan-2025 1919Z dxspider ></strong><span style="font-size: 16px"><br /></span><span style="font-size: 16px"><br /></span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: 16px">As you can see, it was echoed straight back to me.</span><span style="font-size: 16px"><br /></span><span style="font-size: 16px"><br /></span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: 16px">I then switched to my console window</span><span style="font-size: 16px"><br /></span><span style="font-size: 16px"><br /></span><strong style="font-family:Arial">sh/dx g0pkt</strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial"> G6NHU de G6NHU-2 30-Jan-2025 1919Z dxspider ></strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial"> 7074.0 G0PKT 21-Jan-2025 1440Z test <G0PKT></strong><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-family:SF Compact Display;font-size: medium">So the spot I sent at 1919z isn’t shown.</span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-family:SF Compact Display;font-size: medium">I switched back to the telnet session and sent a spot for G6NHU which was again echoed straight back to me.</span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><strong style="font-family:Arial">dx 7074 g6nhu test, please ignore</strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial">DX de G0PKT: 7074.0 G6NHU test, please ignore JO01 1921Z JO01</strong><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: medium">Going back to the console window.</span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><strong style="font-family:Arial">sh/dx g6nhu</strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial">G6NHU de G6NHU-2 30-Jan-2025 1921Z dxspider ></strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial"> 7074.0 G6NHU 30-Jan-2025 1659Z test <G0PKT></strong><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: medium">It’s not there.</span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: medium">These are the two spots I’ve just submitted.</span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><strong style="font-family:Arial">DX de G0PKT: 7074.0 G0PKT test, please ignore JO01 1919Z JO01</strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial">DX de G0PKT: 7074.0 G6NHU test, please ignore JO01 1921Z JO01</strong><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: medium">I can see that MX0NCA-2 has also updated to build 560.</span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><strong style="font-family:Arial">rcmd MX0NCA-2 sh/dx g0pkt</strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial">RCMD 'sh/dx g0pkt' sent to MX0NCA-2</strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial">MX0NCA-2:sh/dx: 'g0pkt' not found</strong><br />
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<strong style="font-family:Arial">rcmd MX0NCA-2 sh/dx g6nhu</strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial">RCMD 'sh/dx g6nhu' sent to MX0NCA-2</strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial">MX0NCA-2:sh/dx: 'g6nhu' not found</strong><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: medium">G1FEF-2 is running build 559, both spots are there.</span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><strong style="font-family:Arial">rcmd G1FEF-2 sh/dx g6nhu</strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial">RCMD 'sh/dx g6nhu' sent to G1FEF-2</strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial">G1FEF-2: 7074.0 G6NHU 30-Jan-2025 1921Z test, please ignore <G0PKT></strong><br />
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<strong style="font-family:Arial">rcmd G1FEF-2 sh/dx g0pkt</strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial">RCMD 'sh/dx g0pkt' sent to G1FEF-2</strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial">G1FEF-2: 7074.0 G0PKT 30-Jan-2025 1919Z test, please ignore <G0PKT></strong><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: medium">W9AEK is using build 499, both spots are there.</span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><strong style="font-family:Arial">rcmd W9AEK sh/dx g6nhu</strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial">RCMD 'sh/dx g6nhu' sent to W9AEK</strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial">W9AEK: 7074.0 G6NHU 30-Jan-2025 1921Z test, please ignore <G0PKT></strong><br />
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<strong style="font-family:Arial">rcmd W9AEK sh/dx g0pkt</strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial">RCMD 'sh/dx g0pkt' sent to W9AEK</strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial">W9AEK: 7074.0 G0PKT 30-Jan-2025 1919Z test, please ignore <G0PKT></strong><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: medium">R5ACQ-1 has also updated to build 560, both spots are there.</span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><strong style="font-family:Arial">rcmd R5ACQ-1 sh/dx g6nhu</strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial">RCMD 'sh/dx g6nhu' sent to R5ACQ-1</strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial">R5ACQ-1: 7074.0 G6NHU 30-Jan-2025 1921Z test, please ignore <G0PKT></strong><br />
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<strong style="font-family:Arial">rcmd R5ACQ-1 sh/dx g0pkt</strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial">RCMD 'sh/dx g0pkt' sent to R5ACQ-1</strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial">G6NHU de G6NHU-2 30-Jan-2025 1937Z dxspider ></strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial">R5ACQ-1: 7074.0 G0PKT 30-Jan-2025 1919Z test, please ignore <G0PKT></strong><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: medium">I don’t know why they’re not showing on MX0NCA-2 or my own node but they seem to be appearing on others.</span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: medium">So I’ve logged on to F1FCA-2 who is running build 560 as G0PKT and sent a spot. </span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: medium">As you can see, it was echoed back.</span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><strong style="font-family:Arial">G0PKT de F1FCA-2 30-Jan-2025 1944Z dxspider ></strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial">dx g6nhu 7074 Testing, ignore me.</strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial">DX de G0PKT: 7074.0 G6NHU Testing, ignore me. 1944Z</strong><span style="font-size: 16px"><br /></span><span style="font-size: 16px"><br /></span><span style="font-size: 16px">But if I immediately check, it’s not there, although my spot from earlier was.</span><span style="font-size: 16px"><br /></span><span style="font-size: 16px"><br /></span><strong style="font-family:Arial">sh/dx g6nhu</strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial">G0PKT de F1FCA-2 30-Jan-2025 1945Z dxspider ></strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial"> 7074.0 G6NHU 30-Jan-2025 1921Z test, please ignore <G0PKT></strong><span style="font-size: 16px"><br /></span><span style="font-size: 16px"><br /></span><span style="font-size: 16px">When I check my own node via the console, the spot I posted from F1FCA-2 is there.</span><span style="font-size: 16px"><br /></span><span style="font-size: 16px"><br /></span><strong style="font-family:Arial">sh/dx g6nhu</strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial">G6NHU de G6NHU-2 30-Jan-2025 1946Z dxspider ></strong><br />
<strong style="font-family:Arial"> 7074.0 G6NHU 30-Jan-2025 1944Z Testing, ignore me. <G0PKT></strong><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: medium">Hopefully all this is coming through OK and that the mailing list doesn’t strip out the bold text as it should make it easier to read.</span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: medium">It looks to me as though spots are being accepted and passed on but still not being displayed or saved locally. MX0NCA-2 is doing something very odd by not showing any of them but the rest are all behaving the same. The text with F1FCA-2 shows the same symptoms as when I submit spots locally, they’re passed on but not saved locally.</span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: medium">73 Keith G6NHU</span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span></div>
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<div name="messageReplySection">On 30 Jan 2025 at 18:00 +0000, Dirk Koopman via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk>, wrote:<br />
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<p>I have uploaded a new version of the code. Please update and try again.</p>
<p>Dirk</p>
<p id="reply-intro">On 2025-01-30 17:07, Keith, G6NHU via Dxspider-support wrote:</p>
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<div dir="auto">To test this further, I've just logged onto one of my partner nodes (MX0NCA-2) as G0PKT. This node is running build 559.<br />
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The spots I've sent today from my node of G0PKT don't show on his node.<br />
<br />
Now I've submitted a spot on his node<br />
<br />
'dx 7074 g6nhu test'<br />
<br />
Then tried to look for it<br />
<br />
'sh/dx g6nhu'<br />
<br />
sh/dx: 'g6nhu' not found<br />
<br />
When I do the same check on my node, the spot isn't there.<br />
<br />
When I look on PI4CC who is running build 547, the spot is there.<br />
<br />
Checking another node running build 559 (R5ACQ-1), the spot is missing as well.<br />
<br />
These aren't self spots, this is just normal spotting. I'm convinced something isn't right.<br />
<br />
73 Keith G6NHU <br />
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<div>On 30 Jan 2025 at 14:58 +0000, Keith, G6NHU via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk>, wrote:<br />
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<div dir="auto">I already have that variable set, I've had it configured that way since March 2023!<br />
<br />
If you notice, some of those spots aren't self spots. Some were (G0PKT spotting itself) but others that don't appear locally were G6NHU spotting G0PKT.<br />
<br />
There are no instances of 'swore' in the debug log and no instances of 'trying to self spot' either.<br />
<br />
73 Keith G6NHU <br />
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<div>On 30 Jan 2025 at 14:25 +0000, Dirk Koopman via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk>, wrote:<br />
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<div class="v1moz-cite-prefix">Which means that you are probably getting a message like this in the debug:<br />
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<span style="font-family: monospace;">(DXCommand) G1TLH-2 swore: 7050 g1tlh (with <a class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" href="words:G1TLH" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">words:G1TLH</a>)<br />
(*) spotter G1TLH/G1TLH<br />
(DXCommand) G1TLH/G1TLH trying to self spot below 1240000KHz (7050 g1tlh) from 82.68.205.1, not passed on to cluster<br /></span><br />
I treat self spotting as "swearing" so it dumps you off after three (configurable) attempts.<br />
<br />
My memory is not what it was, but I am still detecting a silent majority of sysops not liking self-spotting.<br />
<br />
As it's getting near to contest time, I am holding off any more updates that alter the main code so you will have to set $<a class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" href="Spot::minselfspotqrg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Spot::minselfspotqrg</a> = <strong>0</strong> if that's what you want to allow on your node. This only affects <u>locally</u> connected users, not any incoming spots.<br />
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Dirk G1TLH<br />
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On 30/01/2025 13:33, Keith, G6NHU via Dxspider-support wrote:</div>
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<div dir="auto">Considering this is where this all started from with the discussion about self spotting, I noticed this.<br />
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sh/var $<a class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" href="Spot::minselfspotqrg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Spot::minselfspotqrg</a><br />
$<a class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" href="Spot::minselfspotqrg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Spot::minselfspotqrg</a> = <strong>1240000</strong><br />
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Shouldn't the default be 0 now as per this: <a class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/pipermail/dxspider-support/2023-March/018036.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/pipermail/dxspider-support/2023-March/018036.html</a> ?<br />
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73 Keith G6NHU.</div>
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<div>On 30 Jan 2025 at 13:17 +0000, Keith, G6NHU via Dxspider-support <a class="v1moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" rel="noreferrer"><dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk></a>, wrote:<br />
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<div dir="auto">I'm not sure it's quite right.<br />
<br />
I sent some test self spots from within a normal telnet session.<br />
<br />
So this is G0PKT self spotting and also G6NHU sending spots for G0PKT.<br />
<br />
When I do a sh/dx g0pkt, from the telnet session, this is what I see. The spot isn't showing.<br />
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<span style="color: #000000; font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px;">sh/dx g0pkt</span><span style="font-size: 11px;"><br /></span> <span style="color: #000000; font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px;">G0PKT de G6NHU-2 30-Jan-2025 1308Z dxspider ></span><span style="font-size: 11px;"><br /></span> <span style="color: #000000; font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px;"> 7074.0 G0PKT 21-Jan-2025 1440Z test <G0PKT></span><span style="font-size: 11px;"><br /></span> <span style="font-size: 11px;"><br /></span> <span style="font-size: 11px;"><br /></span> I see the same if I do the same command from a console session.<br />
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However, if I do an rcmd to one of my partners, the test spots I made from both G0PKT and from G6NHU show.<br />
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<span style="color: #000000; background-color: #b2b2b2; font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px;">rcmd pi4cc sh/dx g0pkt</span><span style="font-size: 11px;"><br /></span> <span style="color: #000000; background-color: #b2b2b2; font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px;">RCMD 'sh/dx g0pkt' sent to PI4CC</span><span style="font-size: 11px;"><br /></span> <span style="color: #000000; background-color: #b2b2b2; font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px;">G6NHU de G6NHU-2 30-Jan-2025 1308Z dxspider ></span><span style="font-size: 11px;"><br /></span> <span style="color: #000000; background-color: #b2b2b2; font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px;">PI4CC: 7074.0 G0PKT 30-Jan-2025 1245Z test <G0PKT></span><span style="font-size: 11px;"><br /></span> <span style="color: #000000; background-color: #b2b2b2; font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px;">PI4CC: 7074.0 G0PKT 30-Jan-2025 1238Z test <G0PKT></span><span style="font-size: 11px;"><br /></span> <span style="color: #000000; background-color: #b2b2b2; font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px;">PI4CC: 7074.0 G0PKT 30-Jan-2025 1237Z <G6NHU></span><span style="font-size: 11px;"><br /></span> <span style="color: #000000; background-color: #b2b2b2; font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px;">PI4CC: 7074.0 G0PKT 30-Jan-2025 1214Z <G6NHU></span><span style="font-size: 11px;"><br /></span> <span style="color: #000000; background-color: #b2b2b2; font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px;">PI4CC: 7074.0 G0PKT 21-Jan-2025 1440Z test <G0PKT></span><span style="font-size: 11px;"><br /></span> <span style="font-size: 11px;"><br /></span> <span style="font-size: 11px;"><br /></span> Here's the same command locally in the console.<br />
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<span style="color: #000000; background-color: #b2b2b2; font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px;">sh/dx g0pkt</span><span style="font-size: 11px;"><br /></span> <span style="color: #000000; background-color: #b2b2b2; font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px;">G6NHU de G6NHU-2 30-Jan-2025 1311Z dxspider ></span><span style="font-size: 11px;"><br /></span> <span style="color: #000000; background-color: #b2b2b2; font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px;"> 7074.0 G0PKT 21-Jan-2025 1440Z test <G0PKT></span><span style="font-size: 11px;"><br /></span> <span style="font-size: 11px;"><br /></span> <span style="font-size: 11px;"><br /></span> It's as though the spots have been sent but not shown or stored locally.<br />
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Can anyone test the same please, post some spots and then see if they are shown on the local node as well as remote ones.<br />
<br />
73 Keith G6NHU (signing posts with my callsign now as there seem to be about three Keiths on here!).</div>
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<div>On 30 Jan 2025 at 11:57 +0000, Dirk Koopman via Dxspider-support <a class="v1moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" rel="noreferrer"><dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk></a>, wrote:<br />
<blockquote style="border-left-color: grey; border-left-width: thin; border-left-style: solid; margin: 5px 5px; padding-left: 10px;">Please update in the normal way. This was an error inside the dx command<br />
caused by me changing a naming convention. As always: more thought (and<br />
better testing) required...<br />
<br />
You don't need to restart. The fix will be picked up automatically when<br />
you next enter a dx command.<br />
<br />
Dirk G1TLH<br />
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On 30/01/2025 11:30, Mike G3YPP via Dxspider-support wrote:<br />
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; margin: 0">How do we update the (mn) node command that Kin mentions. My node will not send spots<br />
<br />
Mike G3YPP<br />
Sent from my iPhone<br />
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