<html><body><div dir="auto">Hi,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Those you put in spider/local DXDupe.pm, remove it so that the one that has spider by default works.</div></div><div dir="auto">Remember that any module that is put in this directory, will be the one that uses spider, not any new version of it.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Kin EA3CV</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div id="ms-outlook-mobile-signature" dir="auto"><div><br></div>Enviado desde <a href="https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg">Outlook para Android</a></div><div dir="auto" id="mail-editor-reference-message-container"><br><hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%"><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" style="font-size: 11pt;"><strong>De:</strong> Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk> en nombre de Dirk Koopman via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk><br><strong>Enviado:</strong> jueves, enero 30, 2025 6:59:59 p. m.<br><strong>Para:</strong> The DXSpider Support list <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk><br><strong>CC:</strong> Dirk Koopman <djk@tobit.co.uk><br><strong>Asunto:</strong> Re: [Dxspider-support] New version of Mojo (dx command fixed)<br></div><br>
<p>I have uploaded a new version of the code. Please update and try again. </p>
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<p id="reply-intro">On 2025-01-30 17:07, Keith, G6NHU via Dxspider-support wrote:</p>
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<div dir="auto">To test this further, I've just logged onto one of my partner nodes (MX0NCA-2) as G0PKT. This node is running build 559.<br><br>The spots I've sent today from my node of G0PKT don't show on his node.<br><br>Now I've submitted a spot on his node<br><br>'dx 7074 g6nhu test'<br><br>Then tried to look for it<br><br>'sh/dx g6nhu'<br><br>sh/dx: 'g6nhu' not found<br><br>When I do the same check on my node, the spot isn't there.<br><br>When I look on PI4CC who is running build 547, the spot is there.<br><br>Checking another node running build 559 (R5ACQ-1), the spot is missing as well.<br><br>These aren't self spots, this is just normal spotting. I'm convinced something isn't right.<br><br>73 Keith G6NHU <br><br><br></div>
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<div dir="auto">I already have that variable set, I've had it configured that way since March 2023!<br><br>If you notice, some of those spots aren't self spots. Some were (G0PKT spotting itself) but others that don't appear locally were G6NHU spotting G0PKT.<br><br>There are no instances of 'swore' in the debug log and no instances of 'trying to self spot' either.<br><br>73 Keith G6NHU <br><br></div>
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<div class="v1moz-cite-prefix">Which means that you are probably getting a message like this in the debug:<br><br><span style="font-family:monospace">(DXCommand) G1TLH-2 swore: 7050 g1tlh (with <a class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" href="" rel="noopener noreferrer">words:G1TLH</a>)<br>(*) spotter G1TLH/G1TLH<br>(DXCommand) G1TLH/G1TLH trying to self spot below 1240000KHz (7050 g1tlh) from 82.68.205.1, not passed on to cluster<br></span><br>I treat self spotting as "swearing" so it dumps you off after three (configurable) attempts.<br><br>My memory is not what it was, but I am still detecting a silent majority of sysops not liking self-spotting.<br><br>As it's getting near to contest time, I am holding off any more updates that alter the main code so you will have to set $<a class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" href="" rel="noopener noreferrer">Spot::minselfspotqrg</a> = <strong>0</strong> if that's what you want to allow on your node. This only affects <u>locally</u> connected users, not any incoming spots.<br><br>Dirk G1TLH<br><br>On 30/01/2025 13:33, Keith, G6NHU via Dxspider-support wrote:</div>
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<div dir="auto">Considering this is where this all started from with the discussion about self spotting, I noticed this.<br><br>sh/var $<a class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" href="" rel="noopener noreferrer">Spot::minselfspotqrg</a><br>$<a class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" href="" rel="noopener noreferrer">Spot::minselfspotqrg</a> = <strong>1240000</strong><br><br>Shouldn't the default be 0 now as per this: <a class="v1moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/pipermail/dxspider-support/2023-March/018036.html" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/pipermail/dxspider-support/2023-March/018036.html</a> ?<br><br>73 Keith G6NHU.</div>
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<div>On 30 Jan 2025 at 13:17 +0000, Keith, G6NHU via Dxspider-support <a class="v1moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" rel="noreferrer"><dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk></a>, wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">I'm not sure it's quite right.<br><br>I sent some test self spots from within a normal telnet session.<br><br>So this is G0PKT self spotting and also G6NHU sending spots for G0PKT.<br><br>When I do a sh/dx g0pkt, from the telnet session, this is what I see. The spot isn't showing.<br><br><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">sh/dx g0pkt</span><span style="font-size:11px"><br></span> <span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">G0PKT de G6NHU-2 30-Jan-2025 1308Z dxspider ></span><span style="font-size:11px"><br></span> <span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> 7074.0 G0PKT 21-Jan-2025 1440Z test <G0PKT></span><span style="font-size:11px"><br></span> <span style="font-size:11px"><br></span> <span style="font-size:11px"><br></span> I see the same if I do the same command from a console session.<br><br>However, if I do an rcmd to one of my partners, the test spots I made from both G0PKT and from G6NHU show.<br><br><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(178, 178, 178);">rcmd pi4cc sh/dx g0pkt</span><span style="font-size:11px"><br></span> <span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(178, 178, 178);">RCMD 'sh/dx g0pkt' sent to PI4CC</span><span style="font-size:11px"><br></span> <span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(178, 178, 178);">G6NHU de G6NHU-2 30-Jan-2025 1308Z dxspider ></span><span style="font-size:11px"><br></span> <span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(178, 178, 178);">PI4CC: 7074.0 G0PKT 30-Jan-2025 1245Z test <G0PKT></span><span style="font-size:11px"><br></span> <span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(178, 178, 178);">PI4CC: 7074.0 G0PKT 30-Jan-2025 1238Z test <G0PKT></span><span style="font-size:11px"><br></span> <span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(178, 178, 178);">PI4CC: 7074.0 G0PKT 30-Jan-2025 1237Z <G6NHU></span><span style="font-size:11px"><br></span> <span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(178, 178, 178);">PI4CC: 7074.0 G0PKT 30-Jan-2025 1214Z <G6NHU></span><span style="font-size:11px"><br></span> <span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(178, 178, 178);">PI4CC: 7074.0 G0PKT 21-Jan-2025 1440Z test <G0PKT></span><span style="font-size:11px"><br></span> <span style="font-size:11px"><br></span> <span style="font-size:11px"><br></span> Here's the same command locally in the console.<br><br><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(178, 178, 178);">sh/dx g0pkt</span><span style="font-size:11px"><br></span> <span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(178, 178, 178);">G6NHU de G6NHU-2 30-Jan-2025 1311Z dxspider ></span><span style="font-size:11px"><br></span> <span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(178, 178, 178);"> 7074.0 G0PKT 21-Jan-2025 1440Z test <G0PKT></span><span style="font-size:11px"><br></span> <span style="font-size:11px"><br></span> <span style="font-size:11px"><br></span> It's as though the spots have been sent but not shown or stored locally.<br><br>Can anyone test the same please, post some spots and then see if they are shown on the local node as well as remote ones.<br><br>73 Keith G6NHU (signing posts with my callsign now as there seem to be about three Keiths on here!).</div>
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<div>On 30 Jan 2025 at 11:57 +0000, Dirk Koopman via Dxspider-support <a class="v1moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" rel="noreferrer"><dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk></a>, wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left-color:grey; border-left-width:thin; border-left-style:solid; margin:5px 5px; padding-left:10px">Please update in the normal way. This was an error inside the dx command<br>caused by me changing a naming convention. As always: more thought (and<br>better testing) required...<br><br>You don't need to restart. The fix will be picked up automatically when<br>you next enter a dx command.<br><br>Dirk G1TLH<br><br>On 30/01/2025 11:30, Mike G3YPP via Dxspider-support wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding:0 0.4em; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin:0">How do we update the (mn) node command that Kin mentions. My node will not send spots<br><br>Mike G3YPP<br>Sent from my iPhone<br><br>
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