<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">In my opinion, passwords are pretty much next to useless. The reason I say this is that they are only active for the local node. What would make more sense is if that password was shared (obviously not openly) across all nodes, so that whatever node a user logs in to would honour that password. Registration and passwords were introduced *during* 9/11 with DXSpider. IIRC, Dirk released something like 9 updates that day. Registration stops anyone not registered from logging in to a node with callsigns like ID1OT etc and posting. This is a valuable and positive way of preventing fraud on the network. Passwords have a certain amount of protection but not anywhere near as much. Registration should be mandatory, passwords should be shared (encrypted in some way) across the network. This would prevent a lot of abuse that we commonly see. If CC cluster does not support passwords and registration, it should, Lee could easily add it. Other softwares like AR Cluster and AK1A (I mean, good grief!) need to be replaced with supported software. It costs nothing to do after all!<div><br></div><div>My 2 (whatever your lowest currency option is)</div><div><br></div><div>73 Ian</div><div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 7 Feb 2025, at 13:12, Kin via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Anthony,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span class="SpellE"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Passwords</span></span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>are<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="SpellE">not</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="SpellE">deleted</span>,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="SpellE">the</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>variable<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="SpellE">is</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="SpellE">used</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="SpellE">to</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="SpellE">condition</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="SpellE">whether</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="SpellE">or</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="SpellE">not</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="SpellE">all</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="SpellE">users</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>are<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="SpellE">forced</span><span class="SpellE">to</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>use<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="SpellE">passwords</span>.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Look at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="SpellE">you</span>:<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><a href="https://github.com/EA3CV/dxspider_info/blob/main/Docs/Node_configuration_for_user_access.pdf" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;">https://github.com/EA3CV/dxspider_info/blob/main/Docs/Node_configuration_for_user_access.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Kin EA3CV<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;"><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">De:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>En nombre de<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Anthony (N2KI) via Dxspider-support<br><b>Enviado el:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>viernes, 7 de febrero de 2025 13:28<br><b>Para:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Dirk Koopman <djk@tobit.co.uk>; The DXSpider Support list <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk><br><b>CC:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Anthony (N2KI) <n2ki.ham@gmail.com><br><b>Asunto:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Dxspider-support] Question Regarding Password Enforcement<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Dirk, et al,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Currently, my node does not enforce a password requirement using the startup script using<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">set/var $main::passwdreq = 0<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">but I have users who have set passwords to use to login. If I change the script to<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">set/var $main::passwdreq = 1<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Will the current user passwords be retained? Or will we have to start new?<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><br clear="all"><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"> <br><b>Regards,<br><br>Anthony </b><o:p></o:p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b> N2KI</b><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">_______________________________________________</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">Dxspider-support mailing list</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">Dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/dxspider-support</span></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>