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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>OK
dear Rudy.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I
understand that you don't have that possibility.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>No
problems, our connection is not modified.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I
don't want to discuss the issue of passwords between nodes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I
think it's the best and that EVERYONE should implement it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Anyway,
my decision with DXSpider Partners is not changed or negotiated.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Between
DXSpiders, username and password are REQUIRED to continue with CX2SA-8.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thank
you for your time and response.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Best
73, Jose<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De:</span></b><span
lang=ES style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Rudy
Bakalov [mailto:r_bakalov@yahoo.com] <br>
<b>Enviado el:</b> viernes, 07 de febrero de 2025 10:04<br>
<b>Para:</b> 'The DXSpider Support list'; cx2sa@cx2sa.net<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Dxspider-support] Login and passwords REQUIRED to connect to
CX2SA-8 DXSpider<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>I
run a CC Cluster node. The software does not support passwords and therefore
cannot comply with the request. I will remove partnering connections to anyone
who requests it. No ifs and buts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>That
said, IMHO, passwords are a solution to a problem that does not exist. <span
style='color:black'>Are end users actually complaining? What do they want?</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Sure,
it is exciting to track down this and that node, but the big picture is that
the cluster network is working just fine. Human generated spots, compared to
software generated spots, are a tiny fraction of the total number of spots, not
even a rounding error. And the number of deliberately bad spots must be
microscopic; has anyone quantified them? How many daily fraudulent spots are
there? Look at <a href="https://pskreporter.info/cgi-bin/pskstats.pl"
target="_blank">https://pskreporter.info/cgi-bin/pskstats.pl</a> to
understand the volume of spots that do not originate from humans.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>But
let's assume for a moment that bad partners are a huge problem that needs to be
solved immediately. How are you goin to ensure that <b><u>ALL</u></b> first,
second, third level partners support passwords? Unless <b><u>EVERYONE </u></b>is
requiring passwords, doing it inconsistently doesn't achieve anything to reduce
the attack surface. According to DXCluster.info, there are 719 AR-Cluster, CC
Cluster, and DXSpider nodes as of today.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Then
let's take it a step further- somehow you figure out to only have DXSpider
nodes in the network. This means that end users have no choice and must only
connect to spiders. Doesn't sound very user friendly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Again,
I respect the decision of any node operator that would ask me to remove the
peering arrangement.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Rudy
N2WQ<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:#26282A'>On Friday, February 7, 2025 at 07:13:35 AM EST, CX2SA - Jose Ma
Gonzalez via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=ydpaa40d0dfyiv6477323329msonormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>Hello dear Partner:</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=ydpaa40d0dfyiv6477323329msonormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>I have several
partners whose emails do not work or who didn’t answer.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=ydpaa40d0dfyiv6477323329msonormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>In a few days
CX2SA-8 DXSpider WILL NOT ACCEPT connections from partners without Login and
Password.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=ydpaa40d0dfyiv6477323329msonormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>Please send me a
PRIVATE EMAIL with the suggested password.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=ydpaa40d0dfyiv6477323329msonormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>Those nodes that do
not meet this requirement will be removed without notice.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=ydpaa40d0dfyiv6477323329msonormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>Thank you very much.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=ydpaa40d0dfyiv6477323329msonormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'>Best 73, Jose –
CX2SA</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#26282A'> </span><span
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