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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Whilst I appreciate all of the hard work by those involved with the cluster software it is difficult to keep up-to-date with all that is going on.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Relevant information seems to be located in different places.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Kins Github the now restored DXspider Wiki and Dxspider pages on the web Is their one place where all this information is contained?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Also what do all these new options mean its fine to say for example? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Set/var $main::regreg = 1<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Set/var $main::passwdreq = 0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>For the less educated IE me what does this all mean? I keep seeing mention of various commands and options / switches but with no definition of what it will do if set.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I am no Linux expert so it fine to say read a document but if it does not explain what effect the options will have its of little value.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>73 Keith GU6EFB<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kin via Dxspider-support<br><b>Sent:</b> 12 February 2025 08:48<br><b>To:</b> elu9da@gmail.com; 'The DXSpider Support list' <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk><br><b>Cc:</b> Kin <ea3cv@cronux.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Dxspider-support] Trusting spots... A proposal<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hola Rick,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>* To configure the partners, I advise you to read this document:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://github.com/EA3CV/dxspider_info/blob/main/Docs/HOW_TO_SET_UP_A_PARTNER_NODE_IN_DXSPIDER.pdf"><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>https://github.com/EA3CV/dxspider_info/blob/main/Docs/HOW_TO_SET_UP_A_PARTNER_NODE_IN_DXSPIDER.pdf</span></a><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>* To update your DXSpider, in addition to the standard procedure, you can use this utility:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://github.com/EA3CV/dxspider_update"><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>https://github.com/EA3CV/dxspider_update</span></a><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Kin EA3CV<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>De:</span></b><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Dxspider-support <</span><a href="mailto:dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk"><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk</span></a><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>> <b>En nombre de </b>Ricardo Suarez via Dxspider-support<br><b>Enviado el:</b> martes, 11 de febrero de 2025 23:51<br><b>Para:</b> </span><a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk"><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</span></a><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><br><b>CC:</b> Ricardo Suarez <</span><a href="mailto:elu9da@gmail.com"><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>elu9da@gmail.com</span></a><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>><br><b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Dxspider-support] Trusting spots... A proposal<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span lang=ES>Hello everyone<br><br>It is very difficult for me, and I think for many sysops, to keep up with the number of emails with proposals, modifications, configuration updates, opinions, different "I did...", even more "we should do".<br><br>As many of us have a life outside the cluster and we maintain it in our free time, I suggest that Dirk and the other -very active and of course appreciated- sysops make the decisions and then pass on to those of us who watch from the outside what happens, a list of "do this, this and this other thing, in this way", a kind of instruction manual on a definitive update.<br><br>If this definitive update implies changing the way of connecting to passwords, ssh, or smoke signals, let someone say "it should be done this way" and the one who does it is in and the one who doesn't, is out.<br><br>At least that is my opinion, I don't know what others think about this<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=ES>Rick LU9DA<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES>El 11/2/2025 a las 21:18, HB9DHG Fulvio via Dxspider-support escribió:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES>Perfect, <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES>That answers my question :) <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES>set/var $DXProt::pc92c_ipaddr_enable 1<br>Ok, $DXProt::pc92c_ipaddr_enable = '1'<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES>73 de HB9DHG Fulvio<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES>On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 10:08</span><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><span lang=ES>PM <</span><a href="mailto:ea3cv@cronux.net"><span lang=ES>ea3cv@cronux.net</span></a><span lang=ES>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES>It simply associates the node with the user and IP on the node where it is connected.<br>It only serves for network management, it does not affect the user, it is the same as when connecting to any server.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES>Kin<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="m_-6552301906445972133ms-outlook-mobile-signature"><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES>Enviado desde </span><a href="https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg" target="_blank"><span lang=ES>Outlook para Android</span></a><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="m_-6552301906445972133mail-editor-reference-message-container"><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=ES><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></span></div><div id="m_-6552301906445972133divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>De:</span></strong><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt'> HB9DHG Fulvio <</span><a href="mailto:hb9dhg@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt'>hb9dhg@gmail.com</span></a><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt'>><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>Enviado:</span></strong> martes, febrero 11, 2025 9:42:55 p. m.<br><strong><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>Para:</span></strong> </span><a href="mailto:ea3cv@cronux.net" target="_blank"><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt'>ea3cv@cronux.net</span></a><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt'> <</span><a href="mailto:ea3cv@cronux.net" target="_blank"><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt'>ea3cv@cronux.net</span></a><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt'>><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>CC:</span></strong> The DXSpider Support list <</span><a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank"><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt'>dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</span></a><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt'>><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>Asunto:</span></strong> Re: [Dxspider-support] Trusting spots... A proposal<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p><span lang=ES style='color:black'>Thanks, Kin.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=ES style='color:black'>But what exactly does this mean for me (as Sysop) and for a user?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=ES style='color:black'>Sorry for the dumb question—if the command is "transparent," I’d really like to implement it. :)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=ES style='color:black'>HB9DHG Fulvio<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES>On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 9:36</span><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><span lang=ES>PM <</span><a href="mailto:ea3cv@cronux.net" target="_blank"><span lang=ES>ea3cv@cronux.net</span></a><span lang=ES>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES>Fulvio,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES>Send PC92C with IP address.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES>Kin<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="m_-6552301906445972133m_-3097472415547727020ms-outlook-mobile-signature"><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES>Enviado desde </span><a href="https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg" target="_blank"><span lang=ES>Outlook para Android</span></a><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="m_-6552301906445972133m_-3097472415547727020mail-editor-reference-message-container"><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=ES><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></span></div><div id="m_-6552301906445972133m_-3097472415547727020divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>De:</span></strong><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt'> Dxspider-support <</span><a href="mailto:dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank"><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt'>dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk</span></a><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt'>> en nombre de HB9DHG Fulvio via Dxspider-support <</span><a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank"><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt'>dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</span></a><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt'>><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>Enviado:</span></strong> martes, febrero 11, 2025 9:32:36 p. m.<br><strong><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>Para:</span></strong> The DXSpider Support list <</span><a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank"><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt'>dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</span></a><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt'>><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>CC:</span></strong> HB9DHG Fulvio <</span><a href="mailto:hb9dhg@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt'>hb9dhg@gmail.com</span></a><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt'>><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>Asunto:</span></strong> Re: [Dxspider-support] Trusting spots... A proposal<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p><span lang=ES style='color:black'>Kin, I'm happy to help make the network more friendly and security-compliant.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=ES style='color:black'>Are you so kind as to explain what this command does?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><code><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>set/var $DXProt::pc92c_ipaddr_enable 1</span></code><span lang=ES style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=ES style='color:black'>I'm sure I missed this thread, my apologies.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=ES style='color:black'>HB9DHG Fulvio<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=ES style='color:black'>Sysop : HB9ON-8 Dxspider Cluster<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=ES style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES>On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 8:48</span><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><span lang=ES>PM Kin via Dxspider-support <</span><a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank"><span lang=ES>dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</span></a><span lang=ES>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>A great idea to minimise changes in the protocol </span><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif'>👏👏👏</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>With this, nodes that have purposely deactivated PC92 will be considered as ‘suspicious’, and those that have not been updated since the Pleistocene will cease to exist.</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I propose that nodes that have their connections between nodes with passwords should also be considered as good nodes.</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>If this is included with the routing table, it would give more reliability to those nodes.</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>And if it also includes $main::reqreg = 1 with $main::passwdreq = 0, those nodes would be the most secure.</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>What do you think?</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Kin EA3CV</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>PS</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>It would be convenient for sysops to activate:</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>set/var $DXProt::pc92c_ipaddr_enable 1</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>De:</span></b><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Dxspider-support <</span><a href="mailto:dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank"><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk</span></a><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>> <b>En nombre de </b>Dirk Koopman via Dxspider-support<br><b>Enviado el:</b> martes, 11 de febrero de 2025 17:53<br><b>Para:</b> Dxspider-Support <</span><a href="mailto:dxspider-support@dxcluster.org" target="_blank"><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>dxspider-support@dxcluster.org</span></a><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>><br><b>CC:</b> Dirk Koopman <</span><a href="mailto:djk@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank"><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>djk@tobit.co.uk</span></a><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>><br><b>Asunto:</b> [Dxspider-support] Trusting spots... A proposal</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-size:13.5pt'>A while ago, I suggested that I might implement the "nuclear option". Well this is it.<br><br>The "simple" answer is to compare the incoming spot with the contents of the routing table. <br><br>If the user or the node is not in the routing / user tables, then the spot is *likely* fake. <br><br>Now, there are a number of circumstances where this assumption is not true. They include:</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span lang=ES style='font-size:13.5pt'>When a node restarts, it will have an empty routing table which will not be fully informed for at least three hours - by which time it will have received PC92 C records from all the nodes then connected. Obviously PC92 A and records will have been received in "real time" for all the users that have come and gone in the interim. Therefore, until the enforcement wait time expires (default three hours), all spots will be treated as "valid".</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span lang=ES style='font-size:13.5pt'>It's a spot coming from a source that does not (reliably) send PC92 [ADC] or PC16/17 records. That means anything behind a gateway into the AR-Cluster network (e.g. K1TTT). The gateway itself does supply this information to a directly connected node, but it won't be passed on because of the problems deduping PC16/17 and the fact that they are likely to be isolated nodes. If we don't pass these on, then I suspect the wailing and gnash of teeth will be too great. </span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p><span lang=ES style='font-size:13.5pt'>So what I propose to do is to test every spot coming in and depending and after three hours (configurable) the node will grade a spot and, depending on the value of $DXProt::senderverify, will do one of these things if a spot fails the test above:</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=ES style='font-size:13.5pt'>For users: </span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=ES style='font-size:13.5pt'>If set to 1, add a '?' to the one or more callsign(s) e.g.:</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=ES style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DX de II9IAKE: 7113.0 IQ9AAP 15.55 IQ\'S DISTRICTS ARMI VESPUCCI AWARD </span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=ES style='font-size:13.5pt'>becomes </span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=ES style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DX de II9IAKE<b><span style='color:red'>?</span></b>: 7113.0 IQ9AAP<b><span style='color:red'>?</span></b> 15.55 IQ\'S DISTRICTS ARMI VESPUCCI AWARD </span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=ES style='font-size:13.5pt'>It may be adequate to just add it to the spotter call... </span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=ES style='font-size:13.5pt'>If it is set to 2 then users won't see it at all.</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=ES style='font-size:13.5pt'>For nodes:</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=ES style='font-size:13.5pt'>If set to 1, pass it onward to other nodes. If set to 2 and it's a PC61 then dump it. If set to 3 then just dump it. </span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES style='font-size:13.5pt'>Confession time: This variable already exists. You can set it to 1 (warning) or 2 (dump). But to see the sort of effect it can have, just do a "set/debug suspicious" and start a "watchdbg suspicious" in another window. You can unset/debug it and normal service will be resumed. This version does not affect what users see if set to 1.</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=ES style='font-size:13.5pt'>73 Dirk G1TLH</span><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES>_______________________________________________<br>Dxspider-support mailing list<br></span><a href="mailto:Dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank"><span lang=ES>Dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</span></a><span lang=ES><br></span><a href="https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/dxspider-support" target="_blank"><span lang=ES>https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/dxspider-support</span></a><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><pre><span lang=ES>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span lang=ES>Dxspider-support mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><a href="mailto:Dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk"><span lang=ES>Dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</span></a><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><a href="https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/dxspider-support"><span lang=ES>https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/dxspider-support</span></a><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></pre></blockquote></div></body></html>