<div dir="ltr"><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:medium">Thanks, Chris.</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:medium">If you're correct, I’m surely wrong, and you can blame me! :) </span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:medium">But in any case, I didn’t see any signature or any sign that made it look like a proactive email.</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:medium">On the other hand, your reply was kind, and I do appreciate it.</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:medium">With respect, HB9DHG Fulvio</span></div><div>. </div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 7:12 PM Christopher Schlegel <<a href="mailto:sutehk.cs@gmail.com">sutehk.cs@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><p dir="ltr">Fulvio,</p>
<p dir="ltr">I think you misunderstood Kelly's message. He was stating his comments against the providers (people creating the bad spots/abusing the network) and their possible intention of discrediting the cluster sysops, in light of the recent events with WWA and others.</p><p dir="ltr">Just my take...</p><p dir="ltr">73,</p><p dir="ltr">Chris, WI3W</p><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 12, 2025, 13:05 HB9DHG Fulvio via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Kelly,</p><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">First of all, let me thank you for this email, not necessarily for its content, which I find somewhat disrespectful (there’s no greeting, no sign-off, and no courtesy), but because it gives me the opportunity to respond (and we are free to do so) to your statement.</p><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">First of all, this is a group of Sysops (or even free interested guys) who are simply trying to improve the network, investing their resources and time to provide a reliable tool, just like the cluster is.</p><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Courtesy would have been simply asking why these "bad spots" are occurring in a polite and respectful manner. I do agree with you, "I'm misunderstanding what is going on." Yes, because here we are just analyzing the logs, which are "transparent" to the Sysops, and I’m happy that they are transparent to all those subscribed to this group.</p><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Please feel free not to respond if you prefer. I am, like many others, using software that has given me great satisfaction, as the Linux version has even helped me grow professionally.</p><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">I don’t think we are "attempting to discredit the service." We are simply working actively to make the network more transparent. If there are doubts or questions, maybe they should be asked in a polite and respectful manner, for the sake of all parties involved.</p><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Sorry for the outburst, but I feel better now and I hope you can calmly raise any questions in a more serene way.</p><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">HB9DHG Fulvio</p><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Sysop HB9ON-8 Cluster</p></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 6:43 PM Kelly Leavitt via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
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What is the end game of the providers of all of the 'bad spots'?</div>
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An attempt at discrediting the service.</div>
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I will NEVER understand behavior like this, or am I misunderstanding what is going on.<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 12, 2025 10:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dxspider-Support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@dxcluster.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">dxspider-support@dxcluster.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Dirk Koopman <<a href="mailto:djk@tobit.co.uk" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">djk@tobit.co.uk</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Dxspider-support] The results are in for today (so far)</span>
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<div style="font-size:18px">The results are in:<br>
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After setting <span style="font-family:monospace">$DXProt::senderverify </span>
to 1 or 2 (hint: I have set mine to 2)<br>
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And running the following two commands:<br>
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<span style="font-family:monospace"> grepdbg '\s+<-\s+I\s+GB7DJK\s+PC61' | wc -l</span><br>
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grepdbg 'bad spot ' | wc -l<br>
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and noting the numbers on a piece of paper with the first command being 'A' and the second 'B' and then doing this simple calculation:<br>
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<span style="font-family:monospace"> B * 100 / A<br>
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The result I got for a morning's traffic (the natural result of a grepdbg on today's log with sendverify set) is:<br>
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60.22 (%)<br>
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Or to put it another way, most of the traffic sent today is very likely fake.<br>
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Houston, we have a problem...<br>
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73 Dirk G1TLH<br>
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PS If you have had senderverify set > 0 for all of today, you can repeat the example above by changing 'GB7DJK' to a similar node feeding yours from which you are likely to get all/most of your spots.</div>
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