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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Yes,
but the user is not a problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The
real problem is with Node or webcluster not the user.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>They
MUST INDICATE TO US that the USER is connected in their environment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thanks
to several friends I understood the philosophy of this variable.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>In
fact, I left it by default.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>set/var
$DXProt::senderverify 2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>It
is better to have a few real spots than many with a dubious reputation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=rynqvb><span lang=EN>Many times “LESS is MORE”</span></span><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Greetings,
Jose<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De:</span></b><span
lang=ES style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
Dxspider-support [mailto:dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk] <b>En nombre de </b>g4piq---
via Dxspider-support<br>
<b>Enviado el:</b> miércoles, 19 de febrero de 2025 10:38<br>
<b>Para:</b> 'The DXSpider Support list'<br>
<b>CC:</b> g4piq@btinternet.com<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Dxspider-support] $DXProt::senderverify = '2'<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I’ve
just done a quick 10 minute – long enough to make a cup of coffee and make a
sandwich - comparison of spots sent to a user at VE7CC-1 and spots which make
it to my node (1 hop away from Dirk – pretty consistent with what shows there
and at G6NHU-2). I’m sure we’re dropping a lot of legitimate spots<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>VE7CC
– 169 spots received – only 37 also shown at GB7DXM.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>GB7DXM
– 57 spots – only 37 also shown at VE7CC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>There’s
a short 1 hour CWOps contest running right now which generates lots of spots
sourced in the US – so quite lot of the spotters are in the US. I haven’t
looked at what node they are on etc. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>But
– there’s no doubt in my mind that we’re now dropping a very large number of
what look like valid spots. It never felt to me like 60% of spots on the
network were actually invalid. I can’t tell how many of these I’m losing due do
the new verification function being turned on because they are being dropped
upstream from me, and how many because I’m too far from VE7CC. But – in the
past when I’ve compared to VE7CC I’ve not been missing much. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>73<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Andy,
G4PIQ<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Dxspider-support
<dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk> <b>On Behalf Of </b>IZ2LSC via
Dxspider-support<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 19 February 2025 13:22<br>
<b>To:</b> The DXSpider Support list <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk><br>
<b>Cc:</b> IZ2LSC <iz2lsc.andrea@gmail.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Dxspider-support] $DXProt::senderverify = '2'<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>$senderverify is 2 by default with built
568<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>What appears to be fake
doesn't necessarily is a real fake. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>There is a rate of false positives, so
DXspider is discarding a certain % of real and legitimate spots.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>This is the challenge.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>73s<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>Andrea<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB>On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 1:42</span><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-GB>PM
Keith, G6NHU via Dxspider-support <<a
href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I’d
say the recommended reaction is to feel happy that you’re not propagating spots
which appear to have been faked.</span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:13.5pt'><br>
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</span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>73
Keith G6NHU</span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-GB>On 19 Feb 2025
at 11:52 +0000, CX2SA - Jose Ma Gonzalez via Dxspider-support <<a
href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>>,
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US>Dear colleagues:</span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US>I have updated DXSpider to v1.57 build 568 both CX2SA-6 (Test node)
and CX2SA-8</span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US>I have activated in the test node: $DXProt::senderverify = '2'</span><span
lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US>I do not have activated in CX2SA-8 $DXProt::senderverify = '2'</span><span
lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US>However, I see some rejections that come from IPs that would
apparently be in accordance with the country of the station that sends the
spots.</span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US> </span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US>(*) PCPROT: Bad Spot IN3KXV on 21140.0 by OZ2B(87.49.44.51)@AE5E
User OZ2B not on node AE5E, DUMPED via CX2SA-8 96 hops</span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US>(*) PCPROT: Bad Spot DL2025E on 18075.0 by
K0TF(173.49.106.206)@K1TTT User K0TF not on node K1TTT, DUMPED via CX2SA-8 95
hops</span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US>(*) PCPROT: Bad Spot VU2XO on 28390.0 by F4ELC(90.109.186.48)@EA4RCH-5
User F4ELC not on node EA4RCH-5, DUMPED via CX2SA-8 27 hops</span><span
lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US>(*) PCPROT: Bad Spot VK4/TF1OL on 10137.1 by
KB8OTK(73.183.25.49)@AE5E User KB8OTK not on node AE5E, DUMPED via CX2SA-8 96
hops</span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US>(*) PCPROT: Bad Spot 5N9DTG on 28090.0 by ON7KEC(213.219.156.205)@EA4RCH-5
User ON7KEC not on node EA4RCH-5, DUMPED via CX2SA-8 27 hops</span><span
lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US>(*) PCPROT: Bad Spot OM0FL on 21140.0 by OZ2B(87.49.44.51)@AE5E User
OZ2B not on node AE5E, DUMPED via CX2SA-8 96 hops</span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US>(*) PCPROT: Bad Spot IQ6KX on 14184.0 by IK8NRQ(101.56.146.135)@EA4RCH-5
User IK8NRQ not on node EA4RCH-5, DUMPED via CX2SA-8 27 hops</span><span
lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US>(*) PCPROT: Bad Spot ON6SAT on 21140.0 by OZ2B(87.49.44.51)@AE5E
User OZ2B not on node AE5E, DUMPED via CX2SA-8 96 hops</span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US> </span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US>What is recommended?</span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-US>Thank you very much, Jose</span><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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