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<div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: medium">I do notice many spots are rejected as being via VE7CC-1 but also many spots via VE7CC-1 are accepted.</span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: medium">Didn’t I read somewhere in here that VE7CC has the ability to propagate his user list via the appropriate PC9x string but has turned it off? Surely if it’s off then it would be black and white, either all spots would be accepted or all rejected. </span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: medium">But if this is the case, is there a logical reason as to why this would be done? Why turn off such an important security feature?</span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: medium">73 Keith G6NHU</span></div>
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<div name="messageReplySection">On 19 Feb 2025 at 13:55 +0000, Iain Philipps via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk>, wrote:<br />
<blockquote type="cite" style="border-left-color: grey; border-left-width: thin; border-left-style: solid; margin: 5px 5px;padding-left: 10px;">Andy,<br />
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<blockquote type="cite">I'd be much more comfortable with the parameter just impacting what's displayed to the users on the node.<br /></blockquote>
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Yes, but ... the backbone network traffic is still gonna be the backbone network traffic. Doing it the way you suggest makes the change redundant in the current context, does it not?.<br />
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I'm not advocating for things to be one way or another. Just quietly watching (as best I can)<br />
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73 de WR3D<br />
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From: Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk> On Behalf Of g4piq--- via Dxspider-support<br />
Sent: 19 February 2025 13:50<br />
To: 'The DXSpider Support list' <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk><br />
Cc: g4piq@btinternet.com<br />
Subject: Re: [Dxspider-support] $DXProt::senderverify = '2'<br />
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The difficulty is that - as I've read it (and I'd be delighted to be corrected) - with DXProt::senderverify = '2' the node drops the spot and doesn't forward on its neighbours - so that node makes a unilateral decision on whether the spot is good or not for the rest of the network. I'd be much more comfortable with the parameter just impacting what's displayed to the users on the node.<br />
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Apologies if I have mis-understood this.<br />
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73<br />
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Andy, G4PIQ<br />
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From: Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk> On Behalf Of Mikel EA2CW via Dxspider-support<br />
Sent: 19 February 2025 13:46<br />
To: dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk<br />
Cc: Mikel EA2CW <ea2cw@gautxori.com><br />
Subject: Re: [Dxspider-support] $DXProt::senderverify = '2'<br />
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Agree,<br />
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So here is each sysop's choice. As some servers do not identify the login of their users, and thus their spots are not validated as coming from a valid server -> user -> spot chain, choose:<br />
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- Accept non properly authenticaded but valid spots, AND accept all fake spots, or,<br />
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- Reject some valid spots because its uncompleted validation chain AND reject all the fake spots.<br />
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This election will be later evaluated by the users, who will decide either it is better having fewer spots, but all valid, or a lot of fake ones.<br />
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El 19/2/25 a las 14:21, IZ2LSC via Dxspider-support escribió:<br />
<blockquote type="cite">$senderverify is 2 by default with built 568<br />
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What appears to be fake doesn't necessarily is a real fake.<br />
There is a rate of false positives, so DXspider is discarding a<br />
certain % of real and legitimate spots.<br />
This is the challenge.<br />
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73s<br />
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Andrea<br />
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