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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I’ve just done a quick 10 minute – long enough to make a cup of coffee and make a sandwich - comparison of spots sent to a user at VE7CC-1 and spots which make it to my node (1 hop away from Dirk – pretty consistent with what shows there and at G6NHU-2). I’m sure we’re dropping a lot of legitimate spots<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>VE7CC – 169 spots received – only 37 also shown at GB7DXM.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>GB7DXM – 57 spots – only 37 also shown at VE7CC.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>There’s a short 1 hour CWOps contest running right now which generates lots of spots sourced in the US – so quite lot of the spotters are in the US. I haven’t looked at what node they are on etc. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>But – there’s no doubt in my mind that we’re now dropping a very large number of what look like valid spots. It never felt to me like 60% of spots on the network were actually invalid. I can’t tell how many of these I’m losing due do the new verification function being turned on because they are being dropped upstream from me, and how many because I’m too far from VE7CC. But – in the past when I’ve compared to VE7CC I’ve not been missing much. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>73<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Andy, G4PIQ<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk> <b>On Behalf Of </b>IZ2LSC via Dxspider-support<br><b>Sent:</b> 19 February 2025 13:22<br><b>To:</b> The DXSpider Support list <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk><br><b>Cc:</b> IZ2LSC <iz2lsc.andrea@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Dxspider-support] $DXProt::senderverify = '2'<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>$senderverify is 2 by default with built 568<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>What appears to be fake doesn't necessarily is a real fake. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>There is a rate of false positives, so DXspider is discarding a certain % of real and legitimate spots.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>This is the challenge.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>73s<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Andrea<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>--><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 1:42<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>PM Keith, G6NHU via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div name=messageBodySection><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I’d say the recommended reaction is to feel happy that you’re not propagating spots which appear to have been faked.</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><br><br></span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>73 Keith G6NHU</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div name=messageReplySection><p class=MsoNormal>On 19 Feb 2025 at 11:52 +0000, CX2SA - Jose Ma Gonzalez via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>>, wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:3.75pt;margin-right:3.75pt;margin-bottom:3.75pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Dear colleagues:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>I have updated DXSpider to v1.57 build 568 both CX2SA-6 (Test node) and CX2SA-8</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>I have activated in the test node: $DXProt::senderverify = '2'</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>I do not have activated in CX2SA-8 $DXProt::senderverify = '2'</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>However, I see some rejections that come from IPs that would apparently be in accordance with the country of the station that sends the spots.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>(*) PCPROT: Bad Spot IN3KXV on 21140.0 by OZ2B(87.49.44.51)@AE5E User OZ2B not on node AE5E, DUMPED via CX2SA-8 96 hops</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>(*) PCPROT: Bad Spot DL2025E on 18075.0 by K0TF(173.49.106.206)@K1TTT User K0TF not on node K1TTT, DUMPED via CX2SA-8 95 hops</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>(*) PCPROT: Bad Spot VU2XO on 28390.0 by F4ELC(90.109.186.48)@EA4RCH-5 User F4ELC not on node EA4RCH-5, DUMPED via CX2SA-8 27 hops</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>(*) PCPROT: Bad Spot VK4/TF1OL on 10137.1 by KB8OTK(73.183.25.49)@AE5E User KB8OTK not on node AE5E, DUMPED via CX2SA-8 96 hops</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>(*) PCPROT: Bad Spot 5N9DTG on 28090.0 by ON7KEC(213.219.156.205)@EA4RCH-5 User ON7KEC not on node EA4RCH-5, DUMPED via CX2SA-8 27 hops</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>(*) PCPROT: Bad Spot OM0FL on 21140.0 by OZ2B(87.49.44.51)@AE5E User OZ2B not on node AE5E, DUMPED via CX2SA-8 96 hops</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>(*) PCPROT: Bad Spot IQ6KX on 14184.0 by IK8NRQ(101.56.146.135)@EA4RCH-5 User IK8NRQ not on node EA4RCH-5, DUMPED via CX2SA-8 27 hops</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>(*) PCPROT: Bad Spot ON6SAT on 21140.0 by OZ2B(87.49.44.51)@AE5E User OZ2B not on node AE5E, DUMPED via CX2SA-8 96 hops</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>What is recommended?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US>Thank you very much, Jose</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Dxspider-support mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank">Dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a><br><a href="https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/dxspider-support" target="_blank">https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/dxspider-support</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Dxspider-support mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank">Dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a><br><a href="https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/dxspider-support" target="_blank">https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/dxspider-support</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>