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<div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: 16px">I’m seeing spots coming in via nodes running build 568 that are being flagged as bad.</span><span style="font-size: 16px"><br /></span><span style="font-size: 16px"><br /></span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: 16px">As build 568 now has </span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: 16px">$DXProt::sendverify set to 2 by default, does that mean that the sysops have added an entry to startup that sets this back to 0?</span><span style="font-size: 16px"><br /></span><span style="font-size: 16px"><br /></span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: medium">If we’re going to take steps to secure the network and the data we pass, this sort of thing should be hard-coded!</span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size: medium">73 Keith G6NHU</span><span style="font-size: medium"><br /></span></div>

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<div name="messageReplySection">On 22 Feb 2025 at 09:01 +0000, Kin via Dxspider-support <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk>, wrote:<br />

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="SpellE"><span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>It</span></span> <span style='mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><span class="SpellE">is</span> <span class="SpellE">possible</span> <span class="SpellE">that</span> a <span class="SpellE">sysop</span> <span class="SpellE">could</span> <span class="SpellE">take</span> <span class="SpellE">steps</span> <span class="SpellE">to</span> <span class="SpellE">correct</span> <span class="SpellE">this</span>.</span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Enviado desde <a href="https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg">Outlook para Android</a></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>De:</span></b> <span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>IZ2LSC <iz2lsc.andrea@gmail.com><br />

<b>Enviado el:</b> sábado, 22 de febrero de 2025 9:44<br />

<b>Para:</b> The DXSpider Support list <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk><br />

<b>CC:</b> Kin <ea3cv@cronux.net><br />

<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Dxspider-support] Some information</span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal">I collected the % of unverified spots received by my node in 24 hrs during a normal "peaceful" working day.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wSCPqdDAu4wF0_syKZkzArgCDZ-gxBFK/view?usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wSCPqdDAu4wF0_syKZkzArgCDZ-gxBFK/view?usp=sharing</a></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal">So if we really decide to drop unverified spots (that most of the time are real spots, not fake or forged) we are going to drop a lot of spots.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal">I can understand this as a countermeasure during an attack.....but not during normal operations.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal">Just a consideration about the side effects.</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal">Andrea, iz2lsc</p>

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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 8:07<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>PM Kin via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>> wrote:</p>

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I have been analysing how a CC Cluster node behaves with pc9x supposedly<br />

enabled, to see the suspect filtering.<br />

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The only thing that seems to work correctly is PC92K, which only reports the<br />

node itself.<br />

The PC92A does not show all user connections and none from a partner.<br />

The PC92D does not show all user disconnections.<br />

The PC92C is not generated.<br />

I don't understand the point of generating some PC92s and not all of them.<br />

I think it would be better not to generate any if you can't generate them<br />

all. This would avoid ambiguities in the network.<br />

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It is clear that with incomplete information, a CC Cluster will be greatly<br />

affected by filtering. But the vast majority (if not all - 1) do not use<br />

PC92 like ARC, DXNet and AK1A, all their users' spots will be flagged as<br />

suspicious.<br />

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Have a nice weekend.<br />

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Kin EA3CV<br />

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