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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Works
OK too at CX2SA-8<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>G6NHU-2
NODE DXSP normal 19-Feb-2025 1624Z<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>73<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De:</span></b><span
lang=ES style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Dxspider-support
[mailto:dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk] <b>En nombre de </b>ken Sharman
via Dxspider-support<br>
<b>Enviado el:</b> sábado, 22 de febrero de 2025 12:58<br>
<b>Para:</b> The DXSpider Support list<br>
<b>CC:</b> ken Sharman<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Dxspider-support] Some information<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> Hi Anthony <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Link working here ok, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> G6NHU-2 DXSP 18-Feb-2025 0405Z 4d 11h 49m
0.09 2 300 260 <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Ken G7VJA <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>GB7HTL <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On 02/22/2025 3:32 PM GMT Anthony (N2KI) via
Dxspider-support <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk> wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Has your
connection info changed? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Connection
starts but it never gets to connect. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong>Regards,</strong><b><br>
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<strong>Anthony </strong></b> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><strong> N2KI</strong>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 8:50 AM Keith, G6NHU via
Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>>
wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Nope,
it’s up. </span><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><br>
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</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>73 Keith
G6NHU</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On 22 Feb 2025 at 13:32 +0000, Anthony (N2KI) via
Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk"
target="_blank">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>>, wrote: <br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Keith, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Is G6HNU-2
down? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong>Regards,</strong><b><br>
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<strong>Anthony </strong></b> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><strong> N2KI</strong>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 5:11 AM Keith, G6NHU via
Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk"
target="_blank">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I’m seeing
spots coming in via nodes running build 568 that are being flagged as bad.</span><br>
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<span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>As build 568 now
has $DXProt::sendverify set to 2 by default, does that mean that the
sysops have added an entry to startup that sets this back to 0?</span><br>
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<span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>If we’re going
to take steps to secure the network and the data we pass, this sort of thing
should be hard-coded!</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><br>
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</span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>73 Keith
G6NHU</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On 22 Feb 2025 at 09:01 +0000, Kin via Dxspider-support <<a
href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>>,
wrote: <br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Perhaps</span> <span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>we should display a list of the
nodes and the number of spots that have been flagged as suspicious.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>It</span> <span style='font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"'>is possible that a sysop could take steps to correct
this.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Kin</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>EA3CV</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Enviado
desde <a href="https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg" target="_blank">Outlook para Android</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><strong><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>De:</span></strong> <span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>IZ2LSC <<a
href="mailto:iz2lsc.andrea@gmail.com" target="_blank">iz2lsc.andrea@gmail.com</a>><br>
<strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Enviado el:</span></strong>
sábado, 22 de febrero de 2025 9:44<br>
<strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Para:</span></strong>
The DXSpider Support list <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk"
target="_blank">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>><br>
<strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>CC:</span></strong>
Kin <<a href="mailto:ea3cv@cronux.net" target="_blank">ea3cv@cronux.net</a>><br>
<strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Asunto:</span></strong>
Re: [Dxspider-support] Some information</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I
collected the % of unverified spots received by my node in 24 hrs during a
normal "peaceful" working day.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>This
is the result.<o:p></o:p></p>
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href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wSCPqdDAu4wF0_syKZkzArgCDZ-gxBFK/view?usp=sharing"
target="_blank">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wSCPqdDAu4wF0_syKZkzArgCDZ-gxBFK/view?usp=sharing</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>So
if we really decide to drop unverified spots (that most of the time are real
spots, not fake or forged) we are going to drop a lot of spots.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I
can understand this as a countermeasure during an attack.....but not during
normal operations.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Just
a consideration about the side effects.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>73<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Andrea,
iz2lsc<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On
Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 8:07<span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span>PM
Kin via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk"
target="_blank">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi,<br>
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I have been analysing how a CC Cluster node behaves with pc9x supposedly<br>
enabled, to see the suspect filtering.<br>
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The only thing that seems to work correctly is PC92K, which only reports the<br>
node itself.<br>
The PC92A does not show all user connections and none from a partner.<br>
The PC92D does not show all user disconnections.<br>
The PC92C is not generated.<br>
I don't understand the point of generating some PC92s and not all of them.<br>
I think it would be better not to generate any if you can't generate them<br>
all. This would avoid ambiguities in the network.<br>
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It is clear that with incomplete information, a CC Cluster will be greatly<br>
affected by filtering. But the vast majority (if not all - 1) do not use<br>
PC92 like ARC, DXNet and AK1A, all their users' spots will be flagged as<br>
suspicious.<br>
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Have a nice weekend.<br>
<br>
Kin EA3CV<br>
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