<div dir="ltr">Or can we create a whitelist from known webclusters that only allow VERIFIED users to spot? Like the global 'badIP' list?<br>I think this is the easiest resolution to this problem.<div>We contact the well-known webclusters to check that they verify their users, if that's the case, we KNOW that the spots from the callsign that webcluster uses, are LEGIT.<br>We expand this whitelist as we contact more webclusters, but only add them to the whitelist when they verify their logins?<br><br>A good proposal? And it's not that difficult to implement ? <a class="gmail_plusreply" id="plusReplyChip-0" href="mailto:g1tlh@dxcluster.org" tabindex="-1">@Dirk Koopman G1TLH</a> </div><div><br></div><div>Erwin ON8AR, sysop ON0NOL-9</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Op vr 7 mrt 2025 om 08:03 schreef Iain Philipps via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg1477975215811759074"><div lang="EN-GB"><div class="m_1477975215811759074WordSection1"><ul type="disc"><li>The situation today is not so dramatic, but I agree with you that something needs to be reviewed and we have to rethink a suitable way to contrast the attacks we have seen.<u></u><u></u></li></ul><ol style="margin-top:0cm" start="1" type="1"><li class="m_1477975215811759074MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm"><span>Register all users with a password<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_1477975215811759074MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm"><span>Pass user connection state to “the network”<u></u><u></u></span></li></ol><p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span>I would assume that a group of people capable of creating these large scale web clusters could also arrange to do the above …<br><br>Just my view.<br><br>73 de WR3D<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank">dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>IZ2LSC via Dxspider-support<br><b>Sent:</b> 07 March 2025 06:52<br><b>To:</b> The DXSpider Support list <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> IZ2LSC <<a href="mailto:iz2lsc.andrea@gmail.com" target="_blank">iz2lsc.andrea@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Dxspider-support] You are killing all Webclusters!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p>Hi Tobias,<br>Just a clarification.<br>The list show "unverified" spot received by my node. So if I received these spots it means they were not dropped before. Not all dxspider nodes are dropping these spot for several reasons (SW not updated, different cfg from default). On my node for example the unverified spot are accepted and pass through. They are dropped only when a flood is detected and I have a direct connection with dxfun.<u></u><u></u></p><p>The situation today is not so dramatic, but I agree with you that something needs to be reviewed and we have to rethink a suitable way to contrast the attacks we have seen.<u></u><u></u></p><p>73s<u></u><u></u></p><p>Andre<u></u><u></u></p><p>IZ2LSC <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">/// sent from my mobile device \\\<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Il ven 7 mar 2025, 03:09 Mikel EA2CW via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>> ha scritto:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><p class="MsoNormal">FYI,<br><br>* Unfortunately, I was not able to calculate how many "real" fake spots <br>were dropped due to the $DXProt::sendverify = 2, because it could not be <br> determined how many of the users of the webclusters analysed were <br>really logged at them and how many were "injected"<br>===========================================<br><br>Spots sent / rejected from listed webclusters<br>during the 48 hours of the ARRL SSB Contest<br>March 1 & 2, 2025 (data at EA2CW-2)<br><br>NODE -> WEBCLUSTER Tot. Qs Qs/h<br> Dropped Dropped<br>======== ========== ======= =======<br>EA4RCH-5 -> <a href="http://dxfun.com" target="_blank">dxfun.com</a> .... 6242 .. 130<br>DH1TW-2 -> dxheat.com.... 4463 .. 93<br>PY1NB-4 -> <a href="http://dxwatch.com" target="_blank">dxwatch.com</a> ..... 0 .... 0<br>EA6VQ-2 -> <a href="http://dxmaps.com" target="_blank">dxmaps.com</a> .... 233 .... 5<br>DO5SSB-2 -> <a href="http://qrzcq.com" target="_blank">qrzcq.com</a> ..... 864 ... 18<br><br>========================================<br><br>Total spots rejected..... 11802 .. 248<br>Total spots accepted..... 39691 .. 827<br>Total spots.............. 51493 . 1072<br>% spots rejected............ 23%<br><br>-- <br>73 de Mikel Berrocal EA2CW-AE2CW<br>Bilbao, Basque Country<br><a href="mailto:ea2cw@gautxori.com" target="_blank">ea2cw@gautxori.com</a><br><a href="https://www.ea2cw.eus" target="_blank">https://www.ea2cw.eus</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Dxspider-support mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank">Dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a><br><a href="https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/dxspider-support" target="_blank">https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/dxspider-support</a><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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