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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><ul type=disc><li style='mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'>The situation today is not so dramatic, but I agree with you that something needs to be reviewed and we have to rethink a suitable way to contrast the attacks we have seen.<o:p></o:p></li></ul><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Register all users with a password<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Pass user connection state to “the network”<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I would assume that a group of people capable of creating these large scale web clusters could also arrange to do the above …<br><br>Just my view.<br><br>73 de WR3D<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Dxspider-support <dxspider-support-bounces@tobit.co.uk> <b>On Behalf Of </b>IZ2LSC via Dxspider-support<br><b>Sent:</b> 07 March 2025 06:52<br><b>To:</b> The DXSpider Support list <dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk><br><b>Cc:</b> IZ2LSC <iz2lsc.andrea@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Dxspider-support] You are killing all Webclusters!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p>Hi Tobias,<br>Just a clarification.<br>The list show "unverified" spot received by my node. So if I received these spots it means they were not dropped before. Not all dxspider nodes are dropping these spot for several reasons (SW not updated, different cfg from default). On my node for example the unverified spot are accepted and pass through. They are dropped only when a flood is detected and I have a direct connection with dxfun.<o:p></o:p></p><p>The situation today is not so dramatic, but I agree with you that something needs to be reviewed and we have to rethink a suitable way to contrast the attacks we have seen.<o:p></o:p></p><p>73s<o:p></o:p></p><p>Andre<o:p></o:p></p><p>IZ2LSC <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>/// sent from my mobile device \\\<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Il ven 7 mar 2025, 03:09 Mikel EA2CW via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>> ha scritto:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>FYI,<br><br>* Unfortunately, I was not able to calculate how many "real" fake spots <br>were dropped due to the $DXProt::sendverify = 2, because it could not be <br> determined how many of the users of the webclusters analysed were <br>really logged at them and how many were "injected"<br>===========================================<br><br>Spots sent / rejected from listed webclusters<br>during the 48 hours of the ARRL SSB Contest<br>March 1 & 2, 2025 (data at EA2CW-2)<br><br>NODE -> WEBCLUSTER Tot. Qs Qs/h<br> Dropped Dropped<br>======== ========== ======= =======<br>EA4RCH-5 -> <a href="http://dxfun.com" target="_blank">dxfun.com</a> .... 6242 .. 130<br>DH1TW-2 -> dxheat.com.... 4463 .. 93<br>PY1NB-4 -> <a href="http://dxwatch.com" target="_blank">dxwatch.com</a> ..... 0 .... 0<br>EA6VQ-2 -> <a href="http://dxmaps.com" target="_blank">dxmaps.com</a> .... 233 .... 5<br>DO5SSB-2 -> <a href="http://qrzcq.com" target="_blank">qrzcq.com</a> ..... 864 ... 18<br><br>========================================<br><br>Total spots rejected..... 11802 .. 248<br>Total spots accepted..... 39691 .. 827<br>Total spots.............. 51493 . 1072<br>% spots rejected............ 23%<br><br>-- <br>73 de Mikel Berrocal EA2CW-AE2CW<br>Bilbao, Basque Country<br><a href="mailto:ea2cw@gautxori.com" target="_blank">ea2cw@gautxori.com</a><br><a href="https://www.ea2cw.eus" target="_blank">https://www.ea2cw.eus</a><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Dxspider-support mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank">Dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a><br><a href="https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/dxspider-support" target="_blank">https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/dxspider-support</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></div></body></html>