<div dir="ltr"><div>You know what is the value of identifying the bad guys?</div><div>Is to prevent this from happening again, closing the doors we left open.</div><div>I understood that you are focused on high performance systems. But quality is also important.</div><div>And the side effect of the rate limit is that you drop good and bad spots when bad spots make you reach the threshold.</div><div><br></div><div>This is why I consider it very important to identify where the spots are coming in by recording the path.</div><div><br></div><div>73</div><div><br></div><div>Andrea</div><div> </div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">--></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 3:08 PM Rudy Bakalov via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr">It seems that there are many different agendas here that go back to the original instances of flooding the network. Sure, you can invest the time and effort to identify the bad guys; I am focused on making small changes that can make big impact on reducing the likelihood and impact of future malicious events. I also prioritize maintaining the collaborative nature of the cluster network where different types of clusters can co-exist without creating digital islands.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">The way I look at the problem is rather simple- I just got a spot and need to decide on the fly whether or not to accept or reject it. How do I make an instant decision based only on the data in the spot itself?</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Enforcing rate limits is simple and computationally efficient. Rate limits can be applied to any of the PC61 fields- spotter, DX, IP, number of hops, etc. Rate limits can also be dynamic based on other factors, such as whether or not there is a major contest when you'd expect higher spotting activity.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">To be clear, my thinking is rate shaping on the backbone, in addition to what end users get. You minimize the attack surface and blast radius at the same time.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Rudy N2WQ</div><div><br></div>
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On Wednesday, March 12, 2025 at 09:39:24 AM EDT, Mike McCarthy, W1NR via Dxspider-support <<a href="mailto:dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" target="_blank">dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a>> wrote:
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<div><div dir="ltr">We are trying to trace back and identify a rogue node. Why not use what <br clear="none">we already have in the logs?<br clear="none"><div id="m_-1851580617616082594ydp7adebfdbyqtfd32783"><br clear="none">On 3/12/2025 9:07 AM, Rudy Bakalov via Dxspider-support wrote:<br clear="none">> I am not a developer. I am an engineer with formal training in high <br clear="none">> performance real-time algorithms, the kind applicable to emulating <br clear="none">> microprocessors. AI is the grunt who follows my directions and does <br clear="none">> critical analysis and simulation.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> No, I don’t agree that tracking the path of a spot has any value.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Rudy N2WQ<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">-- <br clear="none">73 de Mike, W1NR<br clear="none"><br clear="none">THAT was the equation. EXISTENCE!... SURVIVAL... must cancel out... <br clear="none">programming!<br clear="none"><br clear="none">- Ruk -<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Dxspider-support mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:Dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dxspider-support@tobit.co.uk</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/dxspider-support" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://mailman.tobit.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/dxspider-support</a><br clear="none"></div></div></div>
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